Gillian Anderson: 'Sindimagwirizana kwathunthu ndi chikhalidwe chatsopano'

Pazenera ndi m'moyo, adakumana ndi chisangalalo, chidani, kudziimba mlandu, kuthokoza, mitundu yonse ya chikondi - chikondi, amayi, mwana wamkazi, wachilongo, wochezeka. Ndipo mawu a mndandanda omwe adamupangitsa kutchuka adakhala ngati credo: "Chowonadi chili pafupi" ... Gillian Anderson akumva kukhalapo kwa chowonadi.

"Ndikudabwa kuti ndi wamtali bwanji?" Limenelo linali lingaliro loyamba limene linabwera m’maganizo mwanga pamene ndinamuwona akuyenda patebulo mu lesitilanti ya Chitchaina mu Mzinda wa London imene inali yotsekeka kwa ife, kumene ndinali kumuyembekezera. Ayi ndithu, ndi wamtali bwanji? Wanga ndi 160 cm, ndipo akuwoneka kuti ndi wamfupi kuposa ine. 156 ! 154 ! Zochepa ndithu. Koma mwanjira ina ... elegantly ting'onoting'ono.

Palibe kanthu m'menemo kuchokera kwa galu wamng'ono, yemwe, monga mukudziwa, ndi mwana wagalu mpaka ukalamba. Amayang'ana kwambiri zaka zake za 51, ndipo kuyesa kutsitsimuka sikuwoneka. Zowoneka bwino kwambiri pazenera: wothandizira wake Scully mu X-Files, Dr. Milburn mu Maphunziro a Zogonana, ndi Margaret Thatcher mwiniwake mu The Crown - otchulidwa amphamvu chotero, umunthu wowala kotero kuti mwinamwake mulibe nthawi ganizirani za thupi deta Gillian Anderson.

Kupatula, ndithudi, chiseled Anglo-Saxon mbiri, wangwiro chowulungika nkhope ndi zachilendo mtundu wa maso - kwambiri imvi ndi bulauni freckles pa iris.

Koma tsopano, pamene iye wakhala pamaso panga ndi kapu, monga iye amanenera, «koyera English tiyi» (choyamba mkaka udzathiridwa, ndipo pokhapo tiyi lokha), ine ndikuganiza za iye diminutiveness. Pamwamba pa mapindu omwe amapereka. Mfundo yakuti, mwinamwake, mwamuna aliyense m'dera lake amamva ngati ngwazi, ndipo ichi ndi mutu waukulu kwa mkazi ndi chiyeso chowongolera.

Mwambiri, ndimaganiza zoyamba ndi funso lomwe lidabwera m'maganizo mwanga. Ngakhale, mwinamwake, mkazi woposa 50 ndi mayi wa ana atatu, wamkulu yemwe ali ndi zaka 26, ali ndi ufulu wodabwa naye.

Psychology: Gillian, mwakwatirana kawiri, mu buku lachitatu ana anu awiri anabadwa. Ndipo tsopano mwakhala muubwenzi wosangalatsa kwa zaka 4…

Gillian Anderson: Inde, kwa nthawi yaitali kuposa mmene ukwati wanga wakhalira.

Ndiye, ndikufuna kudziwa kuchokera kwa inu - kodi maubwenzi akakula amasiyana bwanji ndi akale?

Yankho lili mu funso. Chifukwa ndi okhwima. Mfundo yakuti mumadziwa kale zomwe mukufuna kuchokera kwa munthu, ndipo mwakonzeka kuti adzafunika chinachake kuchokera kwa inu. Pamene ndinasiyana ndi atate wa anyamatawo (wabizinesi Mark Griffiths, atate wa ana aamuna a Anderson, Oscar wazaka 14 zakubadwa ndi Felix wazaka 12.— Mkonzi. ndikufuna kuwona mzanga wamtsogolo komanso zomwe ndikufunika kuziwona.

Chachiwiri sichikukambidwa. Choyamba ndi chofunikira, apa mutha kuvomereza. Ndiko kuti, ngati muwona kuti munthu sakugwirizana, mwachitsanzo, ku mfundo zitatu kuchokera ku zofunikira zenizeni, ndiye kuti mukhoza kukhala ndi ubale, koma simudzakhala osangalala mwa iwo. Ndipo mukudziwa, kulemba mindandanda iyi kunandithandiza kwambiri nditakumana ndi Peter Ndipo inde, takhala limodzi kwa zaka 4.

Ndinavutika ndi mantha. Kwenikweni nthawi yayitali. Kuyambira ubwana

Ndipo ndi chiyani chomwe chili pamndandanda wanu wazofunikira poyamba?

Kulemekeza danga la aliyense wa ife - thupi ndi maganizo. Mwambiri, ndimakonda kuti tsopano zikhalidwe zina zatsika mu maubwenzi omwe kale amayenera kuwonedwa. Mwachitsanzo, ine ndi Peter sitikhala limodzi. Misonkhano yathu imakhala chinthu chapadera, maubwenzi amamasulidwa ku chizoloŵezi. Tili ndi chosankha - nthawi yoti tikhale limodzi komanso nthawi yoti tichoke.

Palibe mafunso ngati: oh Mulungu wanga, bwanji tikabalalika, nyumbayo tidzagawana bwanji? Ndipo ndimakonda kuti ndiyamba kumusowa Peter ngati sitionana kwa masiku angapo. Ndani m’banja lokhazikika amene amadziŵa zimenezi? Koma chochititsa chidwi kwambiri ndi chisangalalo chomwe ndimapeza nditaona mathalauza ndi masokosi ataponyedwa pansi mnyumba ya Peter. Ndimawaponda modekha, chifukwa ndi - hooray! Si ntchito yanga kuchitapo kanthu pa izi.

Ndipo nditasankhidwa kukhala a Thatcher mu nyengo yachinayi ya Korona, tidagwirizana nthawi yomweyo za kugawika kwa malowa: Sindikuwunikanso zolembazo, sindilankhula za momwe gawolo limalembedwera, ndipo Peter amatero. osakambirana momwe ndingagwiritsire ntchito. Ndadzimasula ndekha ku maudindo omwe ndimawaona ngati ochita kupanga, ondikakamiza kuchokera kunja. Kuchokera pamaudindo osankha.

Kungoti nthawi ina kuchokera muubwenzi - zaka zingapo, mwina, ndipo izi zisanachitike ndinasamuka kuchoka ku mgwirizano kupita ku mgwirizano - zinali ndi zotsatira zabwino kwa ine: Ndinamvetsetsa momwe machitidwe oipa a maubwenzi omwe ndinalowamo anali. Ndipo nthawi zonse - kuyambira ku koleji, pamene ndinali ndi ubale wolimba ndi wautali ndi mkazi. Izi sizitengera ngakhale kuti ubalewu ndi wa amuna kapena akazi okhaokha kapena amuna kapena akazi okhaokha.

Ndipo kwa ine, zinali chabe kuti miyoyo yathu inali yogwirizana kotheratu, para-capsule inapangidwa momwe ine ndinazimitsira. Nthawi zina kuchita mantha.

Panic attack?

Inde, ndinavutika ndi mantha. Kwenikweni nthawi yayitali. Kuyambira ubwana. Nthawi zina ankabweranso ndili wamkulu.

Kodi mukudziwa chimene chinawachititsa?

Chabwino…Ndili ndi amayi ndi abambo odabwitsa. Zabwino kwambiri - monga makolo komanso ngati anthu. Koma otsimikiza kwambiri. Ndinali ndi zaka ziwiri pamene tinasamuka ku Michigan kupita ku London, bambo anga ankafuna kuphunzira ku London Film School, tsopano ali ndi post-kupanga situdiyo.

Ndinakulira ku London, ndiyeno makolo anga anabwerera ku USA, ku Michigan, ku Grand Rapids. Mzinda waukulu kwambiri, koma pambuyo pa London, unkawoneka ngati wachigawo, wodekha, wotsekeka. Ndipo ndinali wachinyamata. Ndipo kunali koyenera kuti muzolowere malo atsopano, ndipo inu nokha mukudziwa momwe zimakhalira zovuta kwa wachinyamata.

Mng'ono wanga ndi mlongo wanga anabadwa, chidwi cha amayi ndi abambo chinapita kwa iwo. Zonse mwa ine zinkatsutsana ndi dziko londizungulira. Ndipo tsopano ndinali ndi ndolo m'mphuno mwanga, ndinameta tsitsi m'mutu mwanga mu zigamba, aniline pinki Mohawk, ndithudi. Total nihilism, mankhwala onse omwe mungapeze. Sindikunena za zovala zakuda zokha.

Ndinali wachiphanki. Ndinamvera nyimbo ya punk, ndikutsutsa malo omwe, mwachidziwitso, ndiyenera kuyesa kujowina - ndikukusokonezani nonse, ndine wosiyana. Tisanamalize maphunziro, ine ndi mnzanga tinamangidwa - tinalinganiza kudzaza mabowo a makiyi kusukulu ndi epoxy kuti wina asalowe m'mawa, mlonda wa usiku anatigwira.

Amayi anandilimbikitsa kuti ndipite kwa dokotala wa zamaganizo. Ndipo zinagwira ntchito: Ndinkaona kuti ndikupeza njira yanga, kuti mfundo yake inali yakuti sindinamvetsetse komwe ndingasunthire, zomwe ndinadziwona ndekha komanso zomwe ndinali m'tsogolomu: msewu wakuda chabe. Chifukwa chake mantha amanjenjemera. Atatero anandiuza kuti ndikhale katswiri wa zisudzo. Mwachidziwitso.

Chifukwa mwachidziwitso, simunafune?

Ayi, iye ankangotanthauza kuti munthu amene ali kwambiri kwambiri za maonekedwe ake, deforms mopanda chifundo, kotero kuti saopa kukhala defiantly wonyansa kuchokera ku maganizo a chikhalidwe chovomerezeka, munthu uyu akhoza kubadwanso. Ndinafika kumalo ochitira masewera olimbitsa thupi mumzinda wathu ndipo nthawi yomweyo ndinazindikira kuti: ndi izi.

Muli pa siteji, ngakhale mu gawo laling'ono, koma chidwi chili pa inu. N’zoona kuti ndinkafuna kuti anthu azindiganizira kwambiri osati kungozolowera. Koma ndinayenera kubwereranso ku chithandizo. Ndikugwira ntchito pa The X-Files, mwachitsanzo.

Koma chifukwa chiyani? Kunali kupambana kwanu kopanda malire, gawo loyamba lofunikira, kutchuka ...

Inde, ndinali ndi mwayi kuti Chris Carter anaumirira kuti ndizisewera Scully. Ndinkakonzekera kukagwira ntchito m’bwalo la zisudzo, zinkandisangalatsa kwambiri kuposa kanema wawayilesi, ndipo makamaka TV. Ndiyeno mwayi wotero!

Series ndiye sizinali zomwe zili tsopano - kanema weniweni. David (David Duchovny - X-Files mnzake Anderson. - Mkonzi.) anali kale nyenyezi ndi Brad Pitt mu zokopa «California», akukonzekera nyenyezi filimu ntchito ndipo anakhala Mulder popanda changu chilichonse, koma ine ndinali njira ina: wow, inde fee yanga mchaka tsopano ndiyoposa yomwe makolo amapeza pa 10!

Ndinali ndi zaka 24. Sindinakonzekere zovuta zomwe chiwonetserochi chimafuna, kapena zomwe zidachitika kenako. Pa seti, ndinakumana ndi Clyde, anali wothandizira kupanga wopanga (Clyde Klotz - Mwamuna woyamba wa Anderson, bambo wa mwana wake wamkazi Piper. - Pafupifupi. ed.).

Tinakwatirana. Piper anabadwa ali ndi zaka 26. Olembawo anayenera kubwera ndi kugwidwa kwachilendo kwa Scully kuti atsimikizire kusakhalapo kwanga. Ndinapita kukagwira ntchito masiku a 10 nditatha kubereka, koma adafunikirabe kulembanso zolembazo ndipo ndinaphonyabe ndondomekoyi, inali yolimba kwambiri - gawo limodzi m'masiku asanu ndi atatu. Ndipo magawo 24 pachaka, maola 16 patsiku.

Ndinasweka pakati pa Piper ndi kujambula. Nthawi zina zinkawoneka kwa ine kuti ndinalinso mumsewu wakuda uja, ndikusisima kotero kuti ojambula odzola adabwezeretsa zodzoladzola kasanu mosinthana, sindinathe kusiya. Ndipo ine ndinali wachinyengo - yemwe ali ndi mlandu pakuphwanya ndandanda, chifukwa cha nthawi yowonjezera, kusokoneza dongosolo. Komanso ndinali wonenepa.

Kulakwa ndi chimodzi mwa zomwe zimatiumba. Ndi bwino kukumana nazo

Mvetserani, koma zikuwonekeratu - mudali ndi mwana ...

Uli ngati mwana wanga wamkazi. Posachedwapa ndinamuuza Piper za nthawi imeneyo - momwe ndinadzimvera chisoni pamaso pake komanso pamaso pa gululo: nthawi zonse ankasiyidwa ndipo kupanga kunalephera. Ndipo iye, msungwana wamakono, adanena kuti kudzimva kuti ndi wolakwa kumayikidwa pa ife ndi mfundo zamakhalidwe akale ndipo tiyenera kuzichotsa mopanda chifundo ...

Ndi chikhalidwe chatsopanochi, chomwe chimasonyeza kuti kudzimva wolakwa kumayikidwa, sindikuvomereza konse. Inde, ndinali ndi mlandu: Ndinaphwanya mgwirizano, ndimakonda mwana, ndinasiya aliyense. Koma uwu ndi moyo wanga, sindikufuna kuupereka chifukwa cha mndandanda. Zoonadi ziwiri zomwe zangobwera kumene: chowonadi cha zokonda za mndandandawu komanso moyo wanga.

Inde, zimachitika. Zoonadi zingapo zingasemphane, koma izi sizilepheretsa chilichonse kukhala chowona. Kuvomereza zimenezi ndi kukhala munthu wamkulu. Komanso kudziyesa mwanzeru muzochitika zina - ndinali wonenepa kwambiri.

Kenako, ndipo zaka zonse zotsatira za ntchito mu The X-Files, ndinang'ambika kuchokera kujambula kwa mwana wanga wamkazi. Ndipo mwana wanga wamkazi adakhala theka la ubwana wake pa ndege ngati "mwana wopanda achikulire", pali gulu la okwera - adawulukira kwa abambo ake ndikapita kukawombera, kapena kwa ine kuti ndikawombere. Zonse zinali zovuta. Komabe, ndikukhulupirira kuti kulakwa ndi chimodzi mwazomwe zimatipanga. Ndi bwino kukumana nazo.

Ndipo kodi mungapange zosiyana ndi ana anu?

Ndinaganiza za izi - kaya kuli koyenera kuwateteza ku zowawa, yesetsani kuwachenjeza za zolakwa, za zochita zomwe adzanong'oneza nazo bondo ... M'zaka zaposachedwa, ndakhala ndikukumana ndi izi ndi Piper. Ali ndi zaka 26, koma sanasamuke mnyumba mwathu - pali chipinda chapansi pamenepo, tidamukonzekeretsa ndi nyumba kumeneko. Ndipo kotero mukufuna, mukudziwa, kutsogolera - ndi chilakolako changa cholamulira. Koma ine ndikugwirabe Moyo Wake ndi moyo wake.

Ndipo inde, sindimakhulupirira kuti ndikofunikira kuteteza ana ku zowawa. Mchimwene wanga atamwalira, ndinapita kwa iye kuti ndikakhale naye kwa milungu yake yomaliza. Ndipo Piper, yemwe anali ndi zaka 15, adaganiza kuti asamangopita ku Skype ndipo adapita nane. Panalibe zokamba za anyamata, anali aang’ono kwambiri. Koma Piper anaganiza choncho. Anali pafupi ndi Aroni, anafunika kusanzikana naye. Komanso…

Mukudziwa, sindingathe kulingalira zamtendere, ngakhale, wina anganene, kuchoka kosangalatsa. Aaron anali ndi zaka 30 zokha, amamaliza maphunziro ake a psychology ku Stanford, kenako - khansa ya muubongo ... Inde, kwa amayi, kwa abambo, kwa tonsefe zinali zomvetsa chisoni. Koma mwanjira ina… Aaron adakwanitsa kutitsimikizira kuti nafenso tivomereze kusapeŵeka.

Izi ndizofunika kwambiri kwa ine mu Buddhism - zimakutsimikizirani kuti musamatsutse zomwe sizingapeweke. Ndipo izi siziri za kudzichepetsa kwa tsiku ndi tsiku, koma za nzeru zakuya - osataya mphamvu pazinthu zomwe simungathe kuzilamulira, koma kuganizira zomwe zimadalira inu. Koma tiyenera kupanga chisankho chotero tsiku lililonse.

Kodi mungatiuze kusankha komwe kunali kofunika kwambiri kwa inu?

Bwererani ku London, ndithudi. Pambuyo pazaka makumi awiri ku USA. Nditamaliza kujambula nyengo zazikulu za The X-Files. Ananyamula ndikusamuka ndi Piper kupita ku London. Chifukwa ndinazindikira: Nthawi zonse ndinalibe nyumba yeniyeni. Sindinamvepo kuti ndili kunyumba kuyambira ndili ndi zaka 11, kuyambira pomwe tidachoka mnyumba yathu yopusa ku Harringey kumpoto kwa London…

Sindinadzimve kukhala kwathu ku Grand Rapids ndi makolo anga, osati ku Chicago, ku New York, osati ku Los Angeles. Pokhapokha nditafika ku London. Komabe, sindinganene kuti sindimakonda America. Ndimakonda. Pali kunena moona mtima kokhudza mtima mmenemo ...

Mukudziwa, Goose Island, malo ogulitsira ku Chicago komwe ndimagwira ntchito ngati woperekera zakudya pambuyo pa sewero, adatcha mowa wake wina "Jillian." Mwa ulemu wa ine. Poyamba ankatchedwa Belgian Pale Ale, koma tsopano amatchedwa Gillian. Baji yozindikirika ndi yabwino ngati Emmy kapena Golden Globe, sichoncho?

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