Angafune kukhala wosawoneka, koma amavomerezanso mphatso ina - kulowa m'malingaliro a munthu, kuyang'ana dziko lapansi ndi maso a ena. Tilinso ndi chidwi chofuna kumvetsetsa zomwe akumva ndi kuganizira, mmodzi wa otsekedwa kwambiri kwa zisudzo za anthu, wotsogolera zaluso wa Yermolova Theatre, Oleg Menshikov. Kanema watsopano "Kuukira" ndi kutenga nawo gawo kwatulutsidwa kale m'makanema aku Russia.
Mukafika ku gawo limenelo la Yermolova Theatre, yomwe imabisidwa kwa omvera, ndi zipinda zovala ndi maofesi, mumamvetsa nthawi yomweyo: Menshikov wafika kale. Ndi fungo la zonunkhira zabwino kwambiri. Oleg Evgenievich akuvomereza kuti: “Sindikukumbukira kuti ndi iti yomwe ndasankha lero. "Ndili ndi zambiri." Ndikukupemphani kuti mufotokozere dzinalo, chifukwa ndatsala pang'ono kupereka mphatso kwa mwamuna, ndipo tsiku lotsatira ndikupeza chithunzi cha botolo: osmanthus, chamomile, mandimu, iris ndi zina - ngwazi yathu inali yotere. maganizo.
Woyang'anira zaluso kwambiri wa likululi amakonda nyimbo zachikale, koma amalemekeza kwambiri Oksimiron ndi Bi-2, samanyalanyaza zovala zabwino ndi zowonjezera, makamaka mawotchi: "Nthawi zonse ndimamvetsera wotchi ya interlocutor, mokhazikika. Koma panthaŵi imodzimodziyo, sindimalingalira za mkhalidwe wake.” Ndipo ndikumvetsa kuti «musati kuganiza za udindo» ndi zimene muyenera kukambirana naye. Chifukwa ngati mumakumbukira regalia ya ngwazi yathu nthawi zonse, simungathe kuwona zambiri mwa iye.
Psychology: Posachedwapa, Danny Boyle adatulutsa filimu Dzulo ndi chidwi, mwa lingaliro langa, chiwembu: dziko lonse layiwala nyimbo zonse za Beatles komanso kuti gulu loterolo linalipo. Tiyerekeze kuti zimenezi zinakuchitikirani. Munadzuka ndikumvetsetsa kuti palibe amene amakumbukira yemwe ali Oleg Menshikov, sadziwa udindo wanu, zoyenera ...
Oleg Menshikov: Simungayerekeze n’komwe chimwemwe chimene chikanakhala! Ndikadakhala, mwina, kwa nthawi yoyamba m'zaka zambiri, ndikupuma momasuka ndikazindikira kuti palibe amene amandidziwa, palibe amene akufuna chilichonse kwa ine, palibe amene amandiyang'ana ndipo kawirikawiri palibe amene amasamala za kukhalapo kwanga kapena kusakhalapo kwanga.
Ndikadayamba kuchita chiyani? Kwenikweni, palibe chomwe chingasinthe. Zomverera zamkati basi. Ndikadakhala wotambalala, wowolowa manja, wokakamizidwa kutseka anthu. Ukakhala wotchuka, umadziteteza, umapanga mpanda kuzungulira. Ndipo ngati bwaloli likhoza kuwonongedwa, ndikanasiya kutchuka, kuchokera ku zisudzo ...
Ndalama ndi chimodzi mwa zinthu za ufulu. Ngati muli odziyimira pawokha pazachuma, zimatsimikizira zambiri m'malingaliro
Chinthu chokha chimene sindikanakana chinali ndalama. Chabwino, bwanji? Kodi mukukumbukira za Mironov? “Ndalama sizinathebe!” Ndipo ndi zoona. Ndalama ndi imodzi mwazinthu zaufulu, gawo lake. Ngati muli odziyimira pawokha pazachuma, zimatsimikizira zambiri m'malingaliro anu. Ndazolowera kale moyo wotukuka, moyo wapamwamba, monga amanenera tsopano, kukhalako. Koma nthawi zina ndimaganiza: chifukwa chiyani sindinayese china chake?
Chifukwa chake, inde, ndingapite kukayesa kotere. Kudzuka ngati Menshikov wopanda pake… Izi zingagwirizane ndi ine.
Kodi mukukumbukira nthawi ya moyo wanu dzina lapakati lidayamba "kukula" kwa inu?
Kwenikweni, izo zinachitika mochedwa kwambiri. Ngakhale tsopano nthawi zambiri amanditcha "Oleg", ndipo anthu ndi aang'ono kuposa ine. Amathanso kugwiritsa ntchito "inu", koma sindimawauza kalikonse. Mwina ndikuwoneka wamng'ono, kapena ndimavala mosayenera kwa msinkhu wanga, osati suti ndi tayi ... Koma ndikuganiza kuti dzina lapakati ndilokongola, sindikudziwa chifukwa chake tonse takhala tikutchedwa Sasha ndi Dima kwa nthawi yaitali cholakwika . Ndipo kusintha kuchokera ku "inu" kupita ku "inu" kulinso kokongola. Kumwa chakumwa pa ubale ndi mchitidwe waulemu pamene anthu ayandikira. Ndipo inu simungakhoze kutaya izo.
Mudanenapo kuti muli ndi mibadwo iwiri yabwino kwambiri. Yoyamba ndi nthawi ya pakati pa zaka 25 ndi 30, ndipo yachiwiri ndi imene ilipo masiku ano. Muli ndi chiyani tsopano chomwe simunakhale nacho kale?
Kwa zaka zambiri, nzeru, kudzichepetsa, chifundo zinaonekera. Mawuwa ndi okwera kwambiri, koma popanda iwo, palibe. Panali kuona mtima kwa iwe mwini komanso kwa ena, ufulu woyenerera. Osati mphwayi, koma maganizo odzichepetsa pa zomwe iwo amaganiza za ine. Asiyeni aganize, anene zomwe akufuna. Ndipita ndekha, izi "zopanda kukangana" zimandikwanira.
Nthawi zina kudzichepetsa ndi chiwonetsero chapamwamba, kudzikuza kwa wina ...
Ayi, uku ndi kukoma mtima komweko, kukhoza kudziika m’malo mwa wina. Mukamvetsetsa: chilichonse chikhoza kuchitika m'moyo wanu, simukuyenera kuweruza, simukuyenera kutsimikizira chilichonse. Tiyenera kukhala odekha, ofewa pang'ono. Ndinali wosiyana kwambiri, makamaka pa maubwenzi. Ndinakhala chete ndi anthu - ndinakhala wosasangalatsa. Inafika nthawi yomwe ndinangosiya kulankhula.
Mwa anzanga akale, ndatsala pang'ono kutha, mwachiwonekere, ichi ndi chikhalidwe. Ndilibe nyumba kapena nkhawa ndi izi, anthu ena amabwera. Zomwe ndisiyane nazo. Ngakhale ndikumvetsetsa kuti kusunga ubale wautali ndi kolondola. Koma sindinapambane.
Kodi mumaganiza chiyani mukamayang'ana pagalasi? Kodi mumakonda nokha?
Tsiku lina ndinazindikira kuti zimene ndikuona pagalasi n’zosiyana kwambiri ndi zimene ena amaona. Ndipo kukhumudwa kwambiri. Ndikadziyang’ana pa zenera kapena pa chithunzi, ndimadzifunsa kuti: “Kodi ameneyu ndani? Sindimamuwona pagalasi! Mtundu wina wa kuwala ndi wolakwika, mbali yake si yabwino. Koma, mwatsoka kapena mwamwayi, ndi ine. Timangodziwona tokha momwe timafunira.
Nthawi ina ndinafunsidwa kuti ndifune mphamvu zotani. Kotero, ine ndikanakonda kukhala wosawoneka. Kapena, mwachitsanzo, zingakhale zabwino kupeza mphamvu yoteroyo kuti ndilowe mu ubongo wa munthu wina aliyense kuona dziko ndi maso awo. Izi ndizosangalatsa kwambiri!
Nthawi ina Boris Abramovich Berezovsky - tidali naye paubwenzi - adanena chinthu chodabwitsa: "Mukuona, Oleg, nthawi yotere idzafika: ngati munthu amanama, kuwala kobiriwira kumawunikira pamphumi pake." Ndinaganiza, “Mulungu, ndizosangalatsa bwanji! Mwinamwake chinachake chonga ichi chidzachitikadi ...
Pa siteji, mumathyola thukuta zisanu ndi ziwiri, nthawi zambiri mumalira mu gawoli. Kodi ndi liti pamene munalira?
Pamene amayi anga anamwalira, chaka china chinali chisanadutse … Ndipo kotero, m'moyo ... Ndikhoza kukhumudwa chifukwa cha kanema wachisoni. Nthawi zambiri ndimalira pasiteji. Pali chiphunzitso chakuti anthu ochita ngozi amakhala ndi moyo wautali kuposa ochita sewero. Ndiyeno, pa siteji, mtundu wina wa kuwona mtima umachitikadi: ndimapita kukalankhula ndekha. Ndi chikondi changa chonse kwa omvera, sindikuwafuna kwenikweni.
Mwayambitsa njira yanu ya Youtube, yomwe mumalemba zokambirana zanu ndi anthu otchuka, kuyesera kuwawonetsa kwa owona kuchokera kumbali zosadziwika. Ndipo ndi zinthu ziti zatsopano zomwe mwadzipezera nokha mwa alendo anu?
Vitya Sukhorukov ananditsegulira mosayembekezereka ... Tinakumana zaka zana zapitazo: zonse zomwe anali nazo komanso zovuta zake - zonsezi ndizodziwika kwa ine. Koma pakukambirana kwathu, zonse zidawululidwa ndi maliseche, ndi mitsempha yotseguka komanso mzimu, kotero kuti ndidadodoma. Adalankhula zolasa zomwe sindinamve kwa iye ...
Kapena apa pali Fedor Konyukhov - sapereka zoyankhulana, koma anavomera. Iye ndi wodabwitsa, kukongola kwina koopsa. Ndinasokoneza malingaliro anga a iye. Timaganiza kuti ndi ngwazi: amayendayenda yekha m'ngalawa m'nyanja. Ndipo palibe ungwazi. "Mukuchita mantha?" ndikufunsa. "Inde, zowopsa, inde."
Panalinso pulogalamu ndi Pugacheva. Pambuyo pake, Konstantin Lvovich Ernst adandiyitana ine ndikumupempha Channel One, adanena kuti sanamuwonepo Alla Borisovna monga choncho.
Sukhorukov pokambirana adakuuzani kuti: "Oleg, simudzamvetsa: pali kumverera koteroko - manyazi." Ndipo munayankha kuti mukumvetsa bwino. Mukuchita manyazi ndi chiyani?
Komabe, ndine munthu wabwinobwino. Ndipo nthawi zambiri, mwa njira. Kukhumudwitsa wina, kunena chinachake cholakwika. Nthawi zina ndimachita manyazi ndikamaonera zisudzo zoipa. Ndikutsimikiza kuti bwalo lamasewera likukumana ndi zovuta. Ndili ndi chinachake chofanizira nacho, chifukwa ndinapeza zaka zomwe Efros, Fomenko, Efremov ankagwira ntchito. Ndipo zomwe zikukambidwa pano sizindikomera ine ngati katswiri. Koma ndi wosewera amene akuyankhula mwa ine, osati katswiri wotsogolera zisudzo.
Kodi mungakonde kugwira ntchito ndi ndani ngati wosewera?
Lero ndikanapita kwa Anatoly Alexandrovich Vasiliev ngati anachita chinachake. Ndimalemekeza kwambiri Kirill Serebrennikov, ngakhale kuti ndimakonda kwambiri machitidwe ake oyambirira.
Ndikudziwa kuti mumakonda kulemba pamanja pamapepala okongola okwera mtengo. Kodi mumalembera ndani?
Posachedwapa ndinapanga oitanira ku phwando kulemekeza tsiku langa lobadwa - mapepala ang'onoang'ono ndi maenvulopu. Ndinasaina kwa aliyense, tinakondwerera ndi zisudzo zonse.
Kodi mumalembera mkazi wanu Anastasia?
Pepani, ndilibe imodzi. Koma mwina tifunika kuganizira. Chifukwa nthawi zonse amandilembera makhadi, amapeza zabwino zonse patchuthi chilichonse.
Anastasia - ndi Ammayi ndi maphunziro, iye anali ndi zokhumba za ntchito, iye anapita auditions. Koma pamapeto pake sanakhale wosewera. Kodi iye anadzizindikira motani?
Poyamba ndinkaganiza kuti asiya kulakalaka ukatswiri. Koma sindikutsimikiza kuti zatha. Iye samalankhula za izo mochepa, koma ine ndikuganiza kuti ululu wakhala mwa iye. Nthawi zina ndimadziimba mlandu. Pa maphunziro, Nastya ankaonedwa kuti ndi wokhoza, aphunzitsi ake anandiuza za izo. Ndiyeno, pamene anayamba kuchita masewera oimba ... Winawake anachita mantha ndi dzina langa lomaliza, sanafune kuti achite nane, wina anati: "Mukuda nkhawa bwanji za iye. Adzakhala ndi chirichonse, iye ali ndi Menshikov. Iye ankakonda ntchito imeneyi, koma sizinathandize.
Anayamba kuvina, chifukwa ankakonda moyo wake wonse. Tsopano Nastya ndi mphunzitsi wolimbitsa thupi wa Pilates, amagwira ntchito mwamphamvu komanso mwamphamvu, amakonzekera makalasi, amadzuka XNUMX koloko m'mawa. Ndipo sikuti akungodzipanikiza ntchito yochita masewerowa ndi ntchito yatsopano yosangalatsa. Nastya amakonda kwambiri.
Chaka chamawa ndi chikumbutso chanu cha 15 chaukwati. Kodi ubale wanu wasintha bwanji panthawiyi?
Tinakhala ngati tinakula wina ndi mzake. Sindikumvetsa momwe zingakhalire zosiyana ngati Nastya kulibe pakali pano. Sichikukwanira m'mutu mwanga. Ndipo, ndithudi, izo zikanakhala ndi chizindikiro chochotsera, choyipa kwambiri, cholakwika kwambiri kuposa momwe chiriri tsopano. Zoonadi, tinasintha, kudzisisita, kukangana ndi kukalipira. Kenaka adayankhula "kupyolera mu milomo", mwanjira ina adayankhula choncho kwa mwezi ndi theka. Koma sanalekanitse konse, panalibe ngakhale lingaliro loterolo.
Kodi mungakonde kukhala ndi ana?
Ndithudi. Chabwino, sitinapambane. Ndinkafunadi, ndipo Nastya ankafuna. Tinachedwetsa ndi kuchedwa, ndipo pamene tinasankha, thanzi silinalolenso. Sindinganene kuti izi ndi zomvetsa chisoni, koma, ndithudi, nkhaniyi yasintha zina pa moyo wathu.
Ndi njira zina ziti zolerera ana zimene mukuganizira?
Ayi. Monga amanenera, Mulungu sanapereke.
Kufotokozera kulikonse kwa maubale ndi njira yowaipira. Kwa ine, kuli bwino kuti ndisayendetse
Kodi mumachita mantha ndi Nastya?
Zinachitika, makamaka kumayambiriro kwa ubale. Anaukiridwa ndi kuthamangitsidwa. Ndinalandira mameseji ngati "Ine tsopano ndaima munjanji yapansi panthaka kumbuyo kwa mkazi wanu ...". Ndipo izi ngakhale kuti foni yanga sizovuta kupeza! Zikuwonekeratu kuti adalemba dala, adaputa. Koma ndinkachita mantha kwambiri! Ndipo tsopano sikuti ndikuwopa - mtima wanga umachepa ndikaganiza kuti wina angamukhumudwitse. Izi zikanachitikira pamaso panga, mwina ndikanamupha. Osati chifukwa chakuti ndine waukali. Ndili ndi mtima womulemekeza kotero kuti sindingathe kusefa zochita zanga.
Koma simungamuteteze ku chilichonse!
Ndithudi. Komanso, Nastya mwiniwake akhoza kudziteteza m'njira yoti sizikuwoneka pang'ono. Tsiku lina ali pamaso pake munthu wina analankhula mawu oipa kwa ine, ndipo iye anayankha akundimenya mbama kumaso.
Kodi ndi chizolowezi kwa inu ndi Nastya kulankhula za zochitika, mavuto?
Ndimadana nazo zokambilana zonsezi, chifukwa kufotokozera kulikonse kwa ubale ndi njira yopititsira patsogolo…
Kodi mumakonda kufotokoza zakukhosi kwanu m'banja la makolo anu?
Ayi. Makolo anga anandilera mwa kusandilera. Sanabwere kwa ine ndi maphunziro, ndi zofuna za frankness, sanafunse malipoti okhudza moyo wanga, sanandiphunzitse. Sichifukwa chakuti sankasamala za ine, ankangondikonda. Koma tinalibe maubwenzi okhulupilika, aubwenzi, zinali conco. Ndipo, mwina, zambiri apa zidadalira ine.
Amayi anali ndi nkhani yomwe ankakonda kwambiri yomwe adauza Nastya. Mwa njira, sindikukumbukira nthawi imeneyo. Amayi ananditenga ku sukulu ya kindergarten, ndinali wosasamala ndipo ndinafuna chinachake kwa iwo. Ndipo mayi anga sanachite zimene ndinkafuna. Ndinakhala pakati pa msewu mu thambi mu zovala zanga, iwo amati, mpaka inu kuchita izo, ine ndikhala monga choncho. Amayi anayimirira ndi kundiyang’ana, osagwedezeka n’komwe, ndipo ndinati: “Ndiwe wopanda chifundo chotani nanga! N’kutheka kuti ndinakhalabe wosamvera.