Johnny Flynn: "Kusewera Einstein kunandipangitsa kuzindikira tanthauzo la kukhala katswiri"

Nyengo yoyamba ya Genius ikuwonekera pa njira ya National Geographic, yomwe imafotokoza za moyo wa Albert Einstein - kuyambira ubwana wake mpaka ukalamba. Kuchokera pakuwombera koyambirira, chithunzi cha munthu woganiza bwino, woganiza bwino ndi mitambo chikugwa: tikuwona momwe katswiri wa sayansi ya zakuthambo amagonana ndi mlembi wake pa bolodi lopaka choko. Kenako amamuitana kuti azikhala limodzi ndi mkazi wake, chifukwa "monogamy ndi yachikale."

Kuchepetsa gilding, kuphwanya stereotypes ndi zikhulupiriro ndi imodzi mwa ntchito zomwe olemba amadzipangira okha. Wotsogolera Ron Howard anali kufunafuna zisudzo kuti azitsogolera, motsogozedwa ndi luso. Iye akufotokoza kuti: “Kuti muzisewera munthu wodabwitsa ngati Einstein, munthu wovuta kwambiri, wamitundumitundu ndi amene angathe kusewera. "Ndinkafuna wina yemwe, mozama, atha kutengera mzimu waulere."

Young Einstein adaseweredwa ndi woimba komanso wosewera wazaka 34 Johnny Flynn. Izi zisanachitike, adangoyang'ana m'mafilimu, adasewera m'bwalo lamasewera ndikujambula ma Albums a anthu. Flynn akutsimikiza kuti Einstein sanali "dandelion wa Mulungu" monga momwe analili kale. "Iye amawoneka ngati wolemba ndakatulo ndi filosofi ya bohemian kuposa katswiri wa sayansi ya zida zankhondo," akutero.

Tidalankhula ndi Johnny Flynn za momwe zimakhalira kumiza m'dziko lanzeru ndikuyesera kumvetsetsa umunthu wake kuchokera pamalingaliro amunthu wamakono.

Psychology: Kodi mungafotokoze bwanji umunthu wa Einstein?

Johnny Flynn: Chimodzi mwa makhalidwe ake ochititsa chidwi ndicho kusafuna kukhala mbali ya gulu lililonse, gulu, dziko, malingaliro, kapena zikhulupiriro ndi tsankho. Tanthauzo la mphamvu yake yoyendetsera moyo ndikukana ziphunzitso zomwe zilipo kale. Kwa iye panalibe chinthu chophweka ndi chomveka, palibe chomwe chinakonzedweratu. Adazifunsa lingaliro lililonse lomwe adakumana nalo. Uwu ndi mtundu wabwino wophunzirira physics, koma kuchokera pamalingaliro a ubale wapamtima zidabweretsa zovuta zingapo.

Mukutanthauza chiyani?

Choyamba, zimawonekera mu ubale wake ndi akazi. Iyi ndi imodzi mwamitu yayikulu pamndandanda. Pali azimayi angapo omwe amadziwika kuti Einstein adachita chidwi, koma anali munthu wamphepo. Ndipo m'njira zina - ngakhale kudzikonda ndi nkhanza.

Mu unyamata wake, iye ankakondana mobwerezabwereza. Chikondi chake choyamba chinali Maria Winteler, mwana wamkazi wa mphunzitsi yemwe ankakhala naye ku Switzerland. Pambuyo pake, Einstein atalowa ku yunivesite, amakumana ndi mkazi wake woyamba, Mileva Marich, katswiri wa sayansi ya zakuthambo komanso mtsikana yekhayo pagululo. Anakana zokopa za Einstein, koma pamapeto pake adagonjera zithumwa zake.

Mileva osati kusamalira ana, komanso anathandiza Albert mu ntchito yake, anali mlembi wake. Tsoka ilo, iye sanayamikire konse chopereka chake. Tinajambula chithunzi chodziwika bwino chomwe Mileva amawerenga imodzi mwazolemba za mwamuna wake, momwe amathokoza bwenzi lake lapamtima, osati iye. Panalidi mphindi yoteroyo, ndipo tingangolingalira momwe iye anakwiyira.

Zotsatizanazi zimayesa kufotokoza malingaliro enieni a Einstein.

Anatulukira zambiri mwa kuyesa maganizo. Iwo anali ophweka, koma anathandiza kufotokoza chomwe chinali vuto. Zoonadi, m’ntchito yake yasayansi, anakumana ndi mfundo zovuta kumvetsa monga kuthamanga kwa kuwala.

Chimodzi mwa zoyesera zodziwika bwino za malingaliro a Einstein chinabwera m'maganizo ali m'chikepe. Analingalira momwe zingakhalire kukhala mu mphamvu yokoka ziro ndi zotsatira zake zomwe zingakhalepo. Kapena, mwachitsanzo, momwe sichidzakumana ndi kukana kwa mphepo ndikuwuluka mumlengalenga, kapena chilichonse chidzagwa pa liwiro lomwelo mu zero yokoka. Einstein anapita patsogolo m'malingaliro ake ndikulingalira chikepe chikukwera m'mwamba. Kupyolera mu kuyesera kwa ganizoli, adazindikira kuti mphamvu yokoka ndi kuthamanga zili ndi liwiro lomwelo. Malingaliro amenewa anagwedeza chiphunzitso cha malo ndi nthawi.

Kodi n’chiyani chinakuchititsani chidwi kwambiri ndi iye, kuwonjezera pa maganizo ake?

Mwina kupanduka kwake. Analowa ku yunivesite osamaliza ngakhale sukulu, motsutsana ndi chifuniro cha abambo ake. Nthawi zonse ankadziwa kuti iye anali ndani komanso zimene angathe kuchita, ndipo ankanyadira zimenezi. Ndimakhulupirira kuti Einstein sanali wasayansi chabe, koma mofanana ndi filosofi ndi wojambula. Anayimilira masomphenya ake a dziko lapansi ndipo anali wolimba mtima kuti asiye zonse zomwe anaphunzitsidwa. Iye ankakhulupirira kuti sayansi inakakamira m’ziphunzitso zakale ndipo anaiwala za kufunika kopanga zopambana zazikulu.

Nonconformity nthawi zambiri imagwirizanitsidwa ndi kuganiza mwanzeru. Kodi mukuvomereza izi?

Chitukuko nthawi zonse chimatsutsana ndi chinthu chokhazikitsidwa. Kusukulu, m’makalasi oimba, ndinafunikira kuphunzira mabuku ambiri a classics, cramming theory. Kutsutsa kwanga kunasonyezedwa kuti ndinayamba kupanga nyimbo zanga. Ngakhale ngati wina ayesa kupondereza kuganiza kwanu kwaufulu, pamapeto pake zimangokwiyitsa ndikupereka chipiriro.

Ndikuganiza kuti aliyense wa ife ali ndi mtundu wina wa talente wobisika mmenemo - umu ndi momwe dziko limagwirira ntchito. Koma kuti adziwonetse yekha, chilimbikitso chimafunika. Sikuti nthawi zonse chilimbikitsochi chimachokera ku maphunziro apamwamba. Ozilenga ambiri, pazifukwa zina, sanathe kumaliza maphunziro a yunivesite kapena sukulu, koma izi sizinakhale chopinga kwa iwo.

Maphunziro enieni ndi omwe inu nokha mudzatenge, zomwe mudzatenge kuchokera ku zomwe mwapeza, zolakwa, kuthana ndi zovuta. Ndinapita kusukulu yogonera kumene ankayesetsa kupatsa ana ufulu wolankhula. Koma kulankhulana ndi anzanga n’kumene kunandiphunzitsa kuganiza mwanzeru.

Kodi chiyambi chinakhudza bwanji maganizo a Einstein?

Anabadwira m'banja lachiyuda lomasuka lomwe linasamukira ku Germany mibadwo ingapo yapitayo. Ayuda ku Europe panthawiyo, kale chipani cha Nazi Germany chisanachitike, anali gulu lodziwika bwino, lotsekeka la anthu. Einstein, podziwa za mizu yake, sakanadziika kukhala Myuda, chifukwa sanatsatire zikhulupiriro zolimba. Sanafune kukhala wa gulu lirilonse. Koma pambuyo pake, pamene udindo wa Ayuda ku Ulaya unanyonyotsoka kwambiri, iye anawachirikiza ndipo anakhala nawo limodzi.

Kodi wakhala akulimbana ndi nkhondo nthawi zonse?

Ali mnyamata, Einstein anatsutsa mfundo zankhondo za Germany. Mawu ake amadziwika kuti amatsimikizira malingaliro ake a pacifist. Mfundo yaikulu ya Einstein ndiyo kukana maganizo achiwawa.

Mumaona bwanji ndale?

Komabe, ali paliponse. Ndikosatheka kutseka pa izo ndi kukhala otalikirana kwenikweni. Zimakhudza chilichonse, kuphatikiza mawu anga. Limbikirani zikhulupiriro zilizonse ndi zikhulupiriro zamakhalidwe ndipo mudzakhumudwa pa ndale… Koma pali mfundo yofunika apa: Ndimakonda ndale, osati ndale.

Mwaipeza bwanji udindowu?

Mutha kunena kuti sindinachite nawo kafukufuku wotero, chifukwa panthawiyo ndinali kujambula mndandanda wina. Koma za mndandanda «Genius» anauza bwenzi. Adandipanga ine kujambula kanema ndikutumiza kuti ndiwonere. Zomwe ndidachita. Ron Howard adandilumikizana ndi Skype: Ndidali ku Glasgow nthawiyo, ndipo anali ku USA. Kumapeto kwa zokambiranazo, ndinafunsa zomwe Einstein ankatanthauza kwa iye payekha. Ron anali ndi lingaliro lathunthu la zomwe nkhaniyi iyenera kukhala. Choyamba, ndinali ndi chidwi ndi moyo wa munthu, osati wasayansi chabe. Ndinazindikira kuti ndiyenera kutaya malingaliro anga a zomwe iye anali.

Einstein ndi mtundu wosinthika ndipo adakhalapo nthawi zowopsa kwambiri, pokhala pachimake cha zochitika. Mayesero ambiri anamugwera. Zonsezi zinapangitsa kuti khalidweli likhale losangalatsa kwa ine monga wojambula.

Kodi zinali zovuta kukonzekera udindo?

Ndinali ndi mwayi pankhaniyi: Einstein mwina ndi munthu wotchuka kwambiri m'zaka za zana la XNUMX. Ndinali ndi zinthu zambiri zoti ndiwerenge ndikuwerenga, ngakhale makanema. Zithunzi zake zambiri, kuphatikizapo zoyambirira, zasungidwa. Mbali ina ya ntchito yanga inali kuchotsa malingaliro olakwika ndi malingaliro obwerezabwereza, kuganizira zenizeni, kumvetsetsa zomwe zinalimbikitsa Einstein paunyamata wake.

Kodi munayesa kufotokoza mbali za munthu weniweni kapena, mmalo mwake, kupereka mtundu wina wa kuŵerenga kwanu?

Kuyambira pachiyambi, ine ndi Jeffrey tinawona m'buku lathu la Einstein maonekedwe a anthu ambiri odabwitsa, makamaka Bob Dylan. Ngakhale mbiri yawo ili ndi zofanana. Kupangidwa kwa umunthu wa Einstein kunachitika mu chikhalidwe cha bohemian: iye ndi abwenzi ake adakhala usiku akumwa, akukambirana afilosofi otchuka. Nkhani yomweyi ndi Bob Dylan. M'nyimbo zake muli mawu ambiri okhudza olemba ndakatulo ndi afilosofi. Monga Einstein, Dylan ali ndi masomphenya apadera a chilengedwe ndi njira yomasulira mu chinenero cha "munthu". Monga momwe Schopenhauer ananenera, “talente imakwaniritsa cholinga chimene palibe amene angachipeze; genius - yomwe palibe amene angawone. Masomphenya apaderawa ndi amene amawagwirizanitsa.

Kodi mukuwona kufanana pakati pa inu ndi Einstein?

Ndimakonda kuti tili ndi tsiku lobadwa lomwelo. Zimandipatsa chidwi pang'ono, ngati kuti sindine wofiirira wamaso a buluu yemwe adatsukidwa, kukonzedwa ndikuloledwa kudziwonetsa ngati Einstein. Ndimamufotokozera zambiri za mmene akumvera komanso maganizo ake okhudza kutenga nawo mbali kapena kusatenga nawo mbali m'gulu lililonse lachigawenga kapena dziko.

Mofanana ndi iye, ndinafunika kuyenda m’dziko ndili mwana wamng’ono. Iye ankakhala m’mayiko osiyanasiyana ndipo sankafuna kudziika m’gulu la anthu a fuko lililonse. Ndimamvetsetsa ndikugawana nawo malingaliro ake pamikangano iliyonse mwa mawonekedwe awo. Pali njira yabwino kwambiri komanso yowunikira yothetsera mikangano - mutha kungokhala pansi ndikukambirana.

Ndipo Einstein, monga inu, anali ndi mphatso yanyimbo.

Inde, ndimaseweranso violin. Luso limeneli linathandiza kwambiri panthawi yojambula. Ndinaphunzira zidutswa zomwe Einstein adanena kuti ankakonda kwambiri. Mwa njira, zokonda zathu zimagwirizana. Ndinatha kuwongolera kayimbidwe kanga ka violin, ndipo m’nkhani zotsatizanazi ndimasewera ndekha chilichonse. Ndinawerenga kuti, ndikugwira ntchito pa chiphunzitso chake cha relativity, Einstein nthawi ina amatha kuyima ndikusewera kwa maola angapo. Izi zinamuthandiza pa ntchito yake. Ndinalembanso nyimbo ina yonena za Einstein.

Ndiuzeni zambiri.

Izi ndizochitika mwangozi. Iye wakhala ali ngwazi kwa ine, mtundu wa chitsanzo chabwino, koma sindinaganizepo kuti ndingamuseŵera m’filimu. Ndinalembanso nyimboyo ngati nthabwala. Mmenemo, ndikuyesera kufotokoza chiphunzitso cha relativity kwa mwana wanga mu mawonekedwe a lullaby. Ndiye chinali chabe ulemu kwa chidwi changa mwa iye. Ndizodabwitsa kuti tsopano ndiyenera kukumana nazo ndekha.

Kodi mumaikonda bwanji mufilimuyi?

Ndimakumbukira nthawi imene anapirira imfa ya bambo ake ndipo anapitirizabe kuyenda. Tinkajambula zochitika ndi Robert Lindsey akusewera bambo a Albert. Inali mphindi yogwira mtima, ndipo monga wosewera, inali yosangalatsa komanso yovuta kwa ine. Ndinasangalala kwambiri ndi zochitika za maliro m’sunagoge ku Prague. Tinatenga pafupifupi 100 ndipo zinali zamphamvu kwambiri.

Chinalinso chosangalatsa kutulutsanso zoyesera zolingalira, zosinthazo m’mbiri pamene Einstein anazindikira kuti angasinthe chilengedwe. Tidajambula zomwe tidapanganso nkhani zinayi zingapo mu 1914 pomwe Einstein anali kuthamangira kulemba ma equations kuti agwirizane. Podzitsutsa, anakamba nkhani zinayi kwa omvera onse, ndipo zinangotsala pang'ono kumuchititsa misala ndi kuwononga thanzi lake. Pamene zowonjezera mwa omvera zinandiwomba m'manja pamalo omwe ndimalembapo equation yomaliza, ndimatha kulingalira momwe zingakhalire, ndipo zinali zosangalatsa!

Ngati mungamufunse Einstein funso, mungamufunse chiyani?

Zikuwoneka kwa ine kuti palibe mafunso otsala omwe sangayese kuyankha. Imodzi mwa nkhani zochititsa chidwi kwambiri inachitika atasamukira ku USA. Einstein anali ndi nkhawa chifukwa cha kuphwanyidwa kwa ufulu wachibadwidwe komanso kuchitiridwa mopanda chilungamo kwa anthu aku Africa America ndipo adalemba nkhani yomwe adawayika m'magulu ake, komanso iyemwini, ngati "akunja." Iye analemba kuti, "Sindingathe kudzitcha kuti ndine waku America pamene anthu awa akuzunzidwa kwambiri."

Kodi mungakonde kukhalabe m'mbiri, ngati ngwazi yanu?

Sindiganizira za kutchuka. Ngati anthu amakonda masewera kapena nyimbo zanga, ndizabwino.

Ndi katswiri uti yemwe mungafune kusewera nawo?

Dziko lomwe ndikulidziwa komanso dziko lomwe ndikuchokera ndi zaluso. Mkazi wanga ndi wojambula ndipo ndakhala ndikupanga nyimbo kuyambira pamene ndinamaliza maphunziro anga ku koleji. Pali mazana oimba omwe ndikufuna kuyimba. Pali zokamba zambiri za yemwe angatengedwe mu nyengo yotsatira ya Genius ndipo ndikuganiza kuti zikanakhala zabwino ngati akanakhala mkazi. Koma ndikuopa kuti sindidzaseweranso.

Kupatula mmodzi wa anzake.

Ndikuganiza kuti Marie Curie, yemwe akupezeka munkhani yathu ya Einstein, ndi woyenera. Leonardo Da Vinci angakhale okondweretsa ngati atasankha kutenga mmodzi wa amunawo. Ndipo Michelangelo nayenso.