Benedict Cumberbatch: "Ana ndi nangula wabwino kwambiri paulendo wathu"

M'mafilimu, nthawi zambiri amasewera akatswiri, koma amafunsa kuti akumbukire kuti alibe mphamvu zambiri. Amadziona ngati munthu wamba, koma sikophweka kuvomereza izi. Ndipo zambiri - ndizosatheka kugwirizana ndi izi.

Kuli kowala kwambiri, kosangalatsa kwambiri kuno - kumalo odyera achiyuda omwe ali kutali ndi Hampstead Heath m'nyumba yogonamo, yachifilisti, yolemera kwambiri ku Hampstead kumpoto kwa London. Blue makoma, gilded chandelier, mipando upholstered mu kuwala buluu ndi maluwa ndi nthambi ... Ndipo pafupifupi palibe pa ola ili pakati pa nkhomaliro ndi zimene British kuitana chakudya.

Inde, ngakhale makasitomala atatu kapena operekera zakudya pang'ono, mosiyana ndi zomwe ndikuyembekezera, salabadira chilichonse kwa ife. Koma, monga zikukhalira, iwo ali osayanjanitsika konse chifukwa interlocutor wanga mu thalauza imvi, imvi sweatshirt, ndi mpango imvi pakhosi pake, womangidwa ndi nsonga ascetic, akuyesera kukhala wosaoneka. Koma chifukwa iye ndi "masana wokhazikika" pano.

Benedict Cumberbatch, zikuoneka kuti nthawi zonse amapanga nthawi yoti apite ku lesitilantiyi, chifukwa amakhala pamtunda wa mphindi khumi, "ndipo simungathe kuitana kunyumba - pali kulira kwa ana, kukuwa, masewera, misozi, kukopa kuti adye pang'ono. za izi, osati kudya kwambiri za izo ... kapena mosemphanitsa - osati chete, koma ola lakufa. Ndipo apa mutha kubwera pafupi ndi masilapu ndipo mukangomaliza kukambirana mubwereranso kudera lathu la akulu ndi achichepere, komwe sikudziwika bwino kuti ndani akuphunzitsa ... komanso komwe ndimayesetsa kuchoka kulikonse, kulikonse komwe ndili.

Ndizodabwitsa kwa ine kumva mawu omalizawa kuchokera kwa iye - wokonda osati malo odyera okha omwe amatsegulidwa masana, komanso makapeti ofiira, misonkhano ya atolankhani, zochitika zovomerezeka ndi zachifundo, pomwe nthawi zonse amadziwonetsa kuti ndi katswiri wolankhulana. ndi wodziwa kulankhula pang'ono. Ndipo kuchokera kwa munthu yemwe adavomerezapo kuti ... Chabwino, inde, ndimufunsa nthawi yomweyo za izi.

Psychology: Ben, pepani, koma ndizodabwitsa kumva za chikhumbo chopita kunyumba kuchokera kwa mwamuna yemwe adanenapo kuti ali wamng'ono, mantha ake aakulu anali kukhala moyo wamba, wosadabwitsa. Ndipo pano ndinu - banja, ana, nyumba Hampstead ... kwambiri opanda mitambo wamba. Koma bwanji za ntchito, ntchito, kutchuka - kodi mfundo izi ndizochepa m'maso mwanu?

Benedict Cumberbatch: Sindikudziwa ngati mukundipondaponda ... Koma ndikuyankha mwamphamvu. Tsopano popeza ndili ndi zaka makumi anayi, ndazindikira china chake chomwe chikuwoneka chophweka. Moyo ndi njira. Ndiko kuti, osati ndondomeko yomwe ikuchitika kwa ife. Iyi ndi njira yathu, kusankha njira. Kopita - lina kusiyapo manda - sikumveka bwino. Koma poima kwina kulikonse, titero kunena kwake, kuyimitsa kumamveka bwino. Nthawi zina osati kwa ife tokha. Koma mumlengalenga mumatha kumva mphepo kuchokera pamenepo ...

Inu mukudziwa, ndithudi, kuti makolo anga ndi zisudzo. Ndipo ndikudziwa bwino momwe moyo wochitira zinthu ndi wosakhazikika, nthawi zina wochititsa manyazi, wodalira nthawi zonse, amakakamizika, ndipo mozama kwambiri, kuti ndimapeza maphunziro abwino kwambiri. Ndipo adasonkhanitsa ndalama zawo zonse kuti anditumize kusukulu ya anyamata yapadziko lonse, Harrow School.

Iwo ankayembekezera kuti ndi ziyembekezo zimene Harrow amapereka, ndikhoza kukhala dokotala, katswiri wa sayansi ya zakuthambo, loya, pambuyo pake. Ndipo ndidzapeza tsogolo lokhazikika, lopanda mitambo. Koma sukulu isanayambe ndi patchuthi, nthaŵi zambiri ndinkapita ku bwalo la zisudzo, ku zisudzo za amayi kapena za atate. Ndiye ndikukumbukira…

Ndili ndi zaka 11, ndimayima kuseri kwa siteji ndikuyang'ana ochita zisudzo, mumdima, womwe kwa ine uli m'malo mwa holo… Ndipo ndimamva ngati kuchokera mumdima womwe omvera, kutentha kumatuluka. Chabwino, ndikumva kwenikweni!

Amayi abweranso pasiteji, amandiwona ndipo, mwina, mawonekedwe apadera pankhope yanga ndikuti mwakachetechete: "Ayi, winanso ..." Anazindikira kuti ndapita. Ndipo kotero, pamene, pambuyo pa Harrow, ndinalengeza kuti ndikufunabe kukhala wosewera, zomwe zikutanthauza kuti "ku gehena ndi khama lanu ndi maphunziro anu," makolo anga anadandaula kwambiri ...

Ndiye kuti, ndidakonza tsogolo lochita mwa ine ndekha - kumeneko, kumbuyo kwa zochitika za amayi anga. Ndipo wanga wotsatira ... «kuyimitsa» anali kukhala siteji, mwina, ngati ndinali mwayi, chophimba. Osati nthawi yomweyo, koma zinagwira ntchito. Ndipo pambuyo pa maudindo onsewa, kupambana kosangalatsa komanso kosayembekezereka kwa Sherlock kwa ine, ndidamva kuti ndikusowa ...

Ndipo ndikofunikira kwambiri - kulangidwa kwamkati, kulingalira kwamalingaliro, masomphenya owona, omveka bwino a zinthu. Zozikika mu zenizeni. Kuvomereza kwake modekha. Ndipo izi ndizofunika kwambiri kuposa kupambana kwaukadaulo, ndikukutsimikizirani. Kukhala moyo wamba kunakhala kofunika kwambiri kuposa ntchito.

Koma mudalankhula za chikhumbo chokhala ndi moyo wodabwitsa pambuyo pa zomwe zidachitika ku South Africa ...

… Inde, mu kukhalapo angatchedwe malire. Ndinkapita kukawombera ndi anzanga awiri, galimotoyo idaphwanyidwa tayala. Anyamata asanu ndi mmodzi omwe anali ndi mfuti zamakina adabwera kwa ife, kundikankhira ine ndi anzanga mgalimoto, kunditengera kunkhalango, kundiyika pa mawondo panga - ndipo tidatsanzikana kale ndi moyo, ndipo iwo, atatilanda ma kirediti kadi ndi ndalama. , adangosowa ...

Apa ndipamene ndinaganiza kuti ufe wekha, monga momwe unabadwira, palibe amene ungadalire ndipo uyenera kukhala ndi moyo wokwanira, inde ... kwathu, malo abata, ana okhala ndi zenera lalikulu ndipo mumasintha thewera. Uwu ndi moyo wamphamvu, woyezedwa ndi muyeso waukulu kwambiri.

Chifukwa chake, tinene, kukhala kwaokha kwa covid sikunanditsekereze bwino, koma ambiri adadandaula. Banja lathu lonse - ine, ana, makolo anga ndi mkazi - tinali ku New Zealand, kumene ndinali kujambula panthawiyo. Tinakhalako miyezi iwiri ndipo sitinazindikire kuti ali kwaokha. Ndinaphunzira kuimba banjo ndi kuphika buledi. Tinkathyola bowa m’mapiri n’kumawerengera anawo mokweza. Ndikhoza kunena kuti zinali zotanganidwa kwambiri. Ndipo mukudziwa, zikuwoneka ngati kusinkhasinkha - mukakhala, titero, kunja kwa malingaliro anu wamba, komwe kumakhala koyera komanso kodekha.

Mwanenapo mawu oti "dekha" kawiri mphindi zisanu zapitazi ...

Inde, mwina analankhula. Ndinasowadi mtendere wamumtima. Uphungu wabwino kwambiri umene ndalandirapo m’moyo wanga unaperekedwa kwa ine ndi mnzanga wachikulire kwambiri zaka 20 zapitazo. Panthawiyo ndinali kusukulu ya masewero. Atatha kuyesererako, iye anati, “Ben, usadandaule. Khalani ndi mantha, chenjerani, chenjerani. Koma musadandaule. Musalole kuti chisangalalo chikugwetseni. ”

Ndipo ndinali ndi nkhawa kwambiri: kodi ndidaganiza zokhala wosewera chifukwa ndimaganizira kwambiri za bizinesi iyi? Kupatula apo, ndimapita ku Harrow kuti ndikakhale loya, koma nthawi ina ndidazindikira kuti sindinali wanzeru mokwanira pa izi. Kenako zidadziwika kuti ndikulondola - ndikudziwa maloya, ena ndi anzanga akusukulu, ndi anzeru kwambiri, ndipo sindili choncho ...

Koma ndiye sindinali bwino konse. Ndipo iye sanali wotsimikiza za chirichonse - ngakhale mwa iyemwini, kapena mu chenicheni chakuti iye anachita chinthu choyenera ... Uphungu umenewo unali wothandiza kwambiri. Koma mokulira, ndinasiya kudandaula kokha pamene Sophie ndi ine tinasonkhana pamodzi ndipo Keith anabadwa (Christopher ndi mwana wamwamuna wamkulu wa wosewera, anabadwa mu 2015. - Pafupifupi. ed.).

Kodi ndinu m'modzi mwa anthu omwe amakhulupirira kuti kubadwa kwa ana kunasinthiratu?

Inde ndi ayi. Ine ndidakali yemweyo. Koma ndinadzikumbukira ndili mwana—ndili wodziyimira pawokha wosangalatsa bwanji, pomwe mlongo wanga ndi makolo adandipatsa njinga yoyamba! Ndikuganiza kuti ndikofunikira kukumbukira kukhala mnyamata yemwe ankakonda kukwera njinga chifukwa cha malingaliro atsopano odziimira kuti akhale bambo wabwino. Ndipo udindowo ndi wodekha, mukudziwa. Ganizirani zochepa za inu nokha.

Patapita nthawi, ndinakhala woleza mtima kwambiri, ndikungodandaula za zifukwa zenizeni.

Komanso ndinayamba kuwamvetsa makolo anga. Mwachitsanzo, chakuti bambo mu ubwana wanga anapuma ku bafa ndi nyuzipepala. Ndinakhala m'mphepete mwa bafa ndikuwerenga. Ndipo ankachitira misonkho pamalo omwewo pa sinki. Inde, adadi, ndakumvetsani. Nthawi zina zimakhala zofunikira kuti anawo asakhalepo. Koma nthawi zambiri zimakhala zofunikira kuti ziwonekere. Uwu ndiye nangula wabwino kwambiri paulendo wathu.

Kodi muli ndi zomwe mwapeza pazamaphunziro?

Izi ndi njira za makolo anga. Ndine mwana wa anthu okhwima mwauzimu — amayi anga anali ndi zaka 41 pamene ndinabadwa, Tracy, mlongo wa m’banja loyamba la amayi anga, ndi wamkulu kwa ine ndi zaka 15. Komabe makolo anga nthawi zonse ankandiona ngati wofanana naye. Ndiko kuti, ankalankhulana ndi mwanayo ngati mmene amachitira ndi mwana, koma sindikukumbukira mmene zinthu zinasinthira pamene ankalankhula nane ndili wachikulire.

Palibe mwachisankho changa chomwe chidawonedwa ngati cholakwika, koma monga ... changa, chomwe ine ndekha ndidzakhala ndi udindo. Ndi ana amene amandilera ine kuposa ine. Ndakhala wodekha, ndikungodandaula za zinthu zenizeni. Ndipo - pamene akukula - ndikuzindikira kuti sindingathe kukhala ndi udindo pa chirichonse.

Tsopano ndikukumbukira munthu wina wodabwitsa, mmonke ku Kathmandu… Nditatha Harrow, ndinaganiza zopumula ndisanapite ku yunivesite ndikupita ku Nepal monga wodzipereka kukaphunzitsa Chingelezi kwa amonke ang'onoang'ono. Ndiyeno anakhala ngati wophunzira m'nyumba ya amonke - kwa miyezi ingapo. Kudziletsa, maphunziro akukhala chete, maola ambiri akusinkhasinkha. Ndipo pamenepo, munthu wina wowala adatiuza kuti: musamadziimbe mlandu nthawi zambiri.

Ndipo ndinu Mbuda, chifukwa Chibuda ndi chosinthika kuposa Chikhristu?

Koma chowonadi ndi chakuti simungakhale ndi udindo pa chilichonse ndi aliyense! Chitani zomwe mungathe ndipo musadziimbe mlandu. Chifukwa ndi kunyada kudziona kuti ndiwe wodalirika pazochitika zomwe ungakhale wopanda mphamvu. Ndikofunikira kwambiri kudziwa malire a udindo wanu ndipo, ngati pali chilichonse, kulakwa kwanu.

Kawirikawiri, kudziwa malire, kuti athe kuletsa chinachake mu nthawi. Kotero ndinachita zinthu zambiri m'moyo wanga - pa siteji, m'mafilimu - kuti makolo anga azinyadira ine. Koma nthawi ina ndinadziuza kuti: siya. Ndimawakonda kwambiri, ndimawathokoza kwambiri, koma simungathe kuwongolera moyo wanu molingana ndi iwo. Muyenera kuyima mu nthawi - kuchita chinachake, kumva chinachake. Ingopitirirani ku gawo lotsatira, musati mumamatire mu zomwe sizilinso kukula kwanu, zolimba, zolimba kwambiri.

Ichi ndiye choyambitsa chodziwika bwino - pamene chilungamo chanu chimakwera

Mwa njira, pamalo omwewo, ku Nepal, ine ndi mnzanga tinayenda ulendo wautali, tinatayika, patatha masiku awiri ku Himalaya - taonani! - adawona ndowe ya yak ndipo adatsata njira ya ngolo yopita kumudzi. Ndi manja, adawonetsa kuti anali ndi njala mwankhanza, ndipo adalandira chakudya chokoma kwambiri padziko lapansi - mazira. Nthawi yomweyo ndinatsegula m'mimba, ndithudi. Ndipo mnzako adaseka momvetsa chisoni: chipulumutso chathu chinali ndi zotsatira zoyipa.

Ndipo iye anali kulondola: mu moyo, zozizwitsa ndi ... chabwino, zoyipa zimayendera limodzi. Osati wachiwiri - kubwezera kwa woyamba. Kungogwirana dzanja. Zosangalatsa ndi zonyansa. Izi ndizokhudzanso nkhani yamtendere komanso Chibuda changa.

Kodi kukhala ndi banja kwakhudza bwanji ntchito yanu? Kodi munayenera kuganiziranso chilichonse?

Sindikutsimikiza kuti asanabadwe ana, ndisanayambe kupeza bwino pakati pa moyo wapakhomo ndi ntchito, ndikanalimbikitsa malipiro ofanana kwa amuna ndi akazi mufilimu ndi zisudzo mozama kwambiri. Ndipo tsopano ndikukana ntchitoyi ngati sindikutsimikiziridwa kuti mitengo ya «mwamuna» ndi «mkazi» mmenemo ndi yofanana.

Ine, pambuyo pa zonse, ndine wocheperako, wosasowa kwenikweni, mwamuna woyera wazaka zapakati. Sizowona kuti zikanandikhudza kwambiri ngati sindikadamvetsetsa m'machitidwe kuti ndi tsogolo lanji kukhala mayi wantchito.

Ndizosangalatsanso kuti, pokhala tate, ndimayang'ana maudindowo m'njira yatsopano. Ndinasewera Hamlet ku Barbican pamene Keith anali ndi chaka chimodzi. Ndipo adayang'ana Hamlet osati monga kale - monga munthu akukumana ndi kusankha kukhalapo. “Kukhala kapena kusakhala”… Ayi, ndinaona mwa iye mwana wamwamuna, wamasiye, mnyamata amene amaona amayi ake ngati achiwembu chifukwa chakuti anapereka chikumbukiro cha abambo ake.

Ndipo iye ali yense—mkwiyo wachinyamata, ludzu lofuna kutsimikizira kwa amayi ake kulakwa kwake. Ndi mwana wamwamuna - osati umunthu wowala, osati wokonda kapena wonyengerera wa Ophelia, ndi wachinyamata yemwe amamva umasiye wake. Ndipo amafuna kubwezera kwa akuluakulu. Bweretsani chilungamo ku Elsinore momwe amawonera.

Sindikutsutsa ngakhale kuti mawu anga pambuyo pa chimodzi mwa zochitikazo anali kuteteza othawa kwawo ku Syria, motsutsana ndi ndale ndi chisankho chawo chopanda pake kuti avomereze 20 zikwi ku Britain m'zaka za 5, pamene 5 zikwizikwi zinafika ku Lampedusa ndi Lesvos kulikonse. tsiku … Mwinanso, zolankhula izi zidatsatiridwanso ndi chikhumbo cha Hamlet cha chilungamo… Mawu omaliza opita kwa ndale - motsimikiza.

Kodi mukunong'oneza bondo kuti mawuwo, matemberero a akuluakulu andale aku Britain? Pamapeto pake, chifukwa ndiye kuti munaimbidwa mlandu wachinyengo.

O inde: "Nyenyezi yokhala ndi mamiliyoni imamvera chisoni othaŵa kwawo, iye mwiniyo sadzawalola kulowa m'nyumba mwake." Ndipo ayi, sindikudandaula. M'malingaliro anga, ichi ndiye choyambitsa chodziwika bwino - pamene chilungamo chanu chimakwera. Kenako, monga ena ambiri, ndinangotembenuzidwa ndi chithunzi m’nyuzipepala: thupi la mwana wazaka ziwiri pamzere wa mafunde. Iye anali wothaŵa kwawo ku Suriya wosakazidwa ndi nkhondo, anamira m’nyanja ya Mediterranean. Mwanayo anamwalira chifukwa chothawa nkhondo.

Ndinafunika kulankhula ndi omvera mwamsanga kuchokera pabwalo, atangomaliza kusewera, pa mauta anga. Ndipo ndi chinachake chomwe chinali ndi kumverera komweko komwe ndinakumana nako - chisakanizo cha mkwiyo ndi mkwiyo. Izi zinali ndakatulo za wolemba ndakatulo wina wa ku Nigeria: “Palibe malo oti mwana akwere m’bwato kufikira nyanja itadekha kuposa nthaka . . .

Mpaka pano, chigamulo choletsa anthu othawa kwawo kuti asalowe m’dzikolo chikuoneka ngati chankhanza kwa ine. Ntchito yanga inali kuwapezera ndalama. Ndipo kampeniyo idapambana. Ichi ndi chinthu chachikulu. Inde, nthawi zambiri ndinayiwala momwe ndingadandaule ndi zomwe ndinachita. Sindinachitepo. Ndili ndi ana.

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