James McAvoy: "Ndine phunziro losangalatsa la psychoanalysis"

Asanavale chisoti, amavula jekete lake lachikopa. Ali ndi nsapato zolemera. Jeans ndi mabowo. Mawotchi a Casio amawononga pafupifupi $100. Koma pamwamba pa zonsezi ndi mawonekedwe otseguka, okondwa. Timakumana m’dera limene amakhala, lomwe limawoneka ngati tauni yakale ya ku England. Woyang'anira wanga amayang'ana mosangalala, akuwonetsa nkhope yake ku kuwala, koma sindingathe kukana komanso kukhala wonyoza. Koma zinapezeka kuti kusadziletsa moona mtima ndiyo njira yabwino yopambana munthu uyu.

Psychology: Munanenapo kale kuti mumaona kuti makwinya ndiye vuto lalikulu la mawonekedwe anu. Ndipo dzuwa ndi labwino kwambiri kwa iwo!

James McAvoy: Inde, zimaswana padzuwa, ndikudziwa. Koma linali yankho ku funso lopusa la magazini ya glamour: "Kodi sukonda chiyani pa maonekedwe ako?" Monga ngati ndizosamvetsetseka kuti sindine Brad Pitt.

Kodi mungafune kukhala ndi data yakunja ya Brad Pitt?

Inde, sindine kanthu. Ndili ndi kutalika kwapakati, khungu loyera, ma kilogalamu asanu - njira zonse zatseguka patsogolo panga! Ayi ndithu. Sindine wogwidwa ndi deta yanga, nditha kukhala aliyense amene mukufuna. Ndiko kuti, ndikufuna kunena kuti ndinawoneka bwino ndi ponytail ndi ziboda - mu The Chronicles of Narnia. Gwirizanani, Brad Pitt paudindo uwu atengera filimuyi moyipa kwambiri.

Mwina ndinali ndi zaka 23-24, ndinayang'ana "... Ndipo mu moyo wanga ndimavina." Ndiyeno ndinazindikira china chake chokhudza ine—ndibwino kuti kunali koyambirira. Inali filimu yofotokoza za anthu okhala m'nyumba ya olumala, osatha kuyenda paokha. Ndidasewera munthu wodabwitsa, wodzaza ndi moyo yemwe adapezeka ndi matenda a Duchenne muscular dystrophy, uku ndi kukomoka kwa minofu, zomwe zimatsogolera ku kufa ziwalo.

Kuti ndichite ntchitoyi, sikunali kokwanira kuti ndiphunzire pulasitiki ya iwo omwe akudwala matendawa, ndiko kuti, kusasunthika kwathunthu. Ndinalankhula kwambiri ndi anthu omwe ali ndi matendawa. Ndipo ndinaphunzira kuti amakonda kukhala osadziŵika. Chifukwa amaopa chifundo.

Kenako ndinamva kuti udindo wotero unali pafupi kwambiri ndi ine. Ine ndiribe kanthu koti ndimvere chisoni, imeneyo si mfundo. Koma ndimakonda kukhala wamba komanso wosadziwika bwino. Mamita makumi asanu ndi awiri. Sindiwotchera dzuwa. Imvi. Avereji ku Ulaya.

Sizikudziwika momwe mudakhalira wosewera ndi nyenyezi ndi malingaliro otere ponena za inu nokha.

Choyamba, sindimalakalaka chimodzi kapena chimzake. Ndipo chachiwiri, ndili wachinyamata ndinali wamba kwambiri kuposa mmene zimakhalira zofunika pamoyo. Ndinali ndi zaka 15 ndipo ndinkafuna china choposa kukhala mwana wabwinobwino kuchokera kusukulu yabwinobwino mdera la Glasgow. Sindinali wophunzira wabwino kwambiri ndipo sindinaonedwe ndi kuyang'anira kwa ana, atsikana sanandikonde kwenikweni, koma sindinakanidwe pamene ndinaitana wina kuti avine. Ndinkafuna kukhala chinachake chapadera.

Ndiyeno gulu lanyimbo linatulukira kusukulu. Ndipo zidapezeka kuti mutha kukhala wosiyana, wosiyana, ndipo anthu otere adandizungulira mwadzidzidzi. Ndinasiya kuchita mantha kukhala wosiyana. Ndinasiya bwalo lachitetezo, pomwe aliyense anali ngati wina aliyense. Ndiyeno mphunzitsi wa mabukuwo anaitana mnansi wake, wochita sewero ndi wotsogolera David Hayman, kusukulu kwathu kudzalankhula za kanema ndi zisudzo. Ndipo Hayman adasewera Lady Macbeth mu zisudzo za amuna onse kuno ku Glasgow.

Zinali sewero lodziwika bwino! Ndipo anyamata akusukulu kwathu… Mwambiri, msonkhanowu sunali wabwino. Ndipo ndinaganiza zomuthokoza Hayman - kuti asaganize kuti wataya nthawi yake pa ife. Ngakhale, mwina m'mbuyomu, pamaso pa gulu la rock, sindikanayerekeza - ichi ndikuchita "osati ngati wina aliyense".

Ndiyeno n’chiyani chinachitika?

Ndipo zowona kuti Hayman, modabwitsa, adandikumbukira. Ndipo pamene, pambuyo pa miyezi itatu, anali kukonzekera kuwombera The Next Room, anandiitana kuti ndichite nawo gawo laling’ono. Koma sindinaganize zokhala katswiri wa zisudzo. Ndinaphunzira bwino ndipo ndinapeza malo mu dipatimenti ya Chingelezi pa yunivesite. Sindinapite kumeneko, koma ndinalowa mu Naval Academy.

Koma kalata yondiitana inachokera ku Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Theatre, ndipo sindinakhale mkulu wa asilikali apamadzi. Choncho zonse ndi zabwinobwino. Ndine munthu wamachitidwe wamba, chilichonse chachilendo chimandichitikira pazenera.

Kupatula apo, mwachita zinthu ziwiri zosazolowereka kunja kwa ntchito yanu. Ndinakwatira mkazi wamkulu kwa zaka pafupifupi 10 kuposa inu ndipo anasudzulana patatha zaka khumi m'banja lomwe likuwoneka lopanda mitambo ...

Inde, Ann Mary, mkazi wanga wakale, ndi wamkulu kuposa ine. Koma, simudzakhulupirira, zinalibe kanthu kwenikweni. Tinakumana pa seti ya Manyazi, tinali ndi chifukwa chimodzi, ntchito imodzi, zokonda wamba komanso moyo wosagawanika. Kodi mukumvetsetsa? Sindinganene kuti poyamba tinali ndi chibwenzi, ndiyeno timagwirizana.

Zonse zinali nthawi imodzi - chikondi, ndipo tili limodzi. Ndiko kuti, zinaonekeratu kuti tsopano tili limodzi. Palibe chibwenzi musanakwatirane, palibe ulemu wapadera wachikondi. Nthawi yomweyo tinasonkhana. Zomwe zinalibe kanthu zinali zaka.

Koma, monga ndikudziwira, munakula opanda bambo…

Inde, nthawi zambiri ndine chinthu chabwino cha psychoanalysis! Ndipo mukudziwa, ndimayang'ana zinthu izi modekha. Tonse ndife abwino pakusanthula kwina… Ndinali ndi zaka 7 pamene makolo anga anasudzulana. Ine ndi mlongo wanga tinasamuka kukakhala ndi agogo anga. Agogo aamuna anali opha nyama. Ndipo amayi anga ankakhala nafe, kapena ayi - tinabadwa akadali wamng'ono kwambiri, amayenera kuphunzira, kugwira ntchito. Anakhala namwino wamisala.

Tinkakhala ndi agogo. Sanatinamizepo. Sananene, mwachitsanzo: mutha kukhala aliyense amene mukufuna. Izi sizowona, sindikufuna kubzala ziyembekezo zabodza mwa mwana wanganso. Koma iwo adati: muyenera kuyesa kukhala zomwe mukufuna, kapena kukhala munthu. Iwo anali owona. Ndinaleredwa mogwira mtima, osati mwachinyengo.

Mpaka zaka 16, ankakhala motsatira malamulo okhwima ovomerezedwa ndi agogo ake. Koma ndili ndi zaka 16, mwadzidzidzi ndinaona kuti ndikhoza kuchita chilichonse chimene ndikufuna, ndipo agogo anga atandiona kuphwando, anandikumbutsa kuti ndiyenera kupita kukamwa moŵa. Agogo anga amadikirira nthawi yomwe amandikhulupirira, pamene ndidatha kupanga zisankho zanga ndikukhala ndi udindo pa iwo ... Ndili ndi zaka 16, chinali ulendo wodabwitsa - zosankha zanga. Ndipo chifukwa chake, ndine wothandiza kwambiri.

Ndikudziwa kuti ndine ndani, komwe ndikuchokera… Pamene ndinalandira mphotho yanga yoyamba ya BAFTA, panali zokambirana ndi abambo anga mu taloid yomwe sindimadziwa kwenikweni. Anati angasangalale kukumana nane.

Zinandidabwitsa: chifukwa chiyani? Sindiyenera kutero - ndilibe mafunso okhudza zakale, palibe chomwe sichidziwika bwino, sindiyenera kuyang'ana mayankho aliwonse. Ndikudziwa zomwe zidandipanga kukhala yemwe ndili ndipo ndimayang'ana zinthu mwanjira yothandiza. Moyo wakula moti sitidziwana. Chabwino, palibe choyambitsa chakale.

Koma moyo nawonso unayenda bwino, mukuona. Bwanji ngati sanachite bwino?

Ine ndi bwenzi langa lapamtima, Mark, ndi ine tinakumbukira mmene tinalili tili ndi zaka 15. Kenako tinali ndi maganizo akuti: Ziribe kanthu zomwe zingatichitikire, tidzakhala bwino. Ngakhale pamenepo adati: chabwino, ngakhale zaka 15 tidzakhala tikutsuka magalimoto m'mphepete mwa msewu ku Drumtochti, tikhalabe bwino. Ndipo tsopano tasankha kuti tilembetse izi tsopano. Ndili ndi chiyembekezo chotere - kuti funso siliri malo omwe ndimakhala pansi pano, koma momwe ndikudzimvera ndekha.

Chifukwa chake, ndimasangalatsidwa ndi anzanga omwe amaumirira pazizindikiro za momwe alili - pamatrailer akulu akulu akuchipindacho, paokonza tsitsi komanso kukula kwa zilembo za mayina pazikwangwani. Pali zovomerezeka zambiri padziko lapansi zomwe sizingagwirizane ndi zomwe zili ... Kwa ine, pali zambiri.

Kaŵirikaŵiri, chikhumbo chimenechi chofuna kukhala payekha pansi pa dzuŵa sichingamveke kwa ine. Ndine membala watimu mwachilengedwe. Mwina ndichifukwa chake ndinalowa mu gulu loimba nyimbo za kusekondale - ndichifukwa chiyani ndimasewera bwino ngati gulu lonse silikuyenda bwino? Ndikofunika kuti phokoso lonse likhale logwirizana.

Ndinkakonda ku sukulu ya zisudzo, ndipo mu ntchito iyi, chifukwa zisudzo, mafilimu a kanema ndi masewera a timu, ndipo zimatengera wojambula wodzikongoletsera, pa wojambulayo osati wocheperapo kuposa wosewera, ngakhale ali pansi pa zowala, ndipo ali kuseri kwa zochitika. Ndipo zonsezi zimakhala zoonekeratu ngati muyang'ana kuchokera kumbali yeniyeni.

Yang'anani, sizingatheke nthawi zonse kukhala oganiza bwino. Palinso malingaliro. Mwachitsanzo, munasudzulana, ngakhale mwana wanu Brendan ali ndi zaka 6 ...

Koma kusawopa malingaliro anu ndi kuwamvetsetsa ndicho chinthu chothandiza kwambiri m'moyo! Kuti timvetse kuti chinachake chatha, zomwe zili sizikugwirizananso ndi mawonekedwe ... Tinene kuti ubale wathu ndi Ann-Mary wasanduka ubwenzi wolimba, ndife abwenzi ndi mabwenzi. Koma si ukwati eti? Aliyense wa ife amafuna kukhala ndi maganizo enanso amene satheka muukwati wathu.

Mwa njira, ndicho chifukwa chake chisudzulo chitatha tinapitiriza kukhala pamodzi kwa chaka china - osati kuti tisawononge moyo wa Brendan, koma chifukwa chakuti aliyense wa ife analibe zolinga zazikulu zaumwini. Tidakali mabwenzi apamtima ndipo tidzaterobe.

Osapanga chiŵerengero chamaliseche mwa ine - nthawi zina ndimagonja ku zomwe zimandikhudza. Mwachitsanzo, poyamba ndinakana kukhala ndi nyenyezi mu The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby, ngakhale kuti ndinakondana ndi script ndi udindo wake. Koma pamenepo cholinga ndi gwero la chiwembucho ndi imfa ya mwana wamng'ono wa ngwaziyo. Ndipo posakhalitsa, Brendan anabadwa. Sindinafune kuyesa kutayika koteroko. Sindinathe. Ndipo udindo wake unali wodabwitsa, ndipo filimuyo imatha kutuluka modabwitsa, koma sindinathe kupitirira mfundo iyi mu script.

Koma ndiye mudasewerabe mufilimuyi?

Chaka chatha, maganizo achepa. Sindinachitenso mantha kuti pali china chake chomwe chingamuchitikire Brendan. Ndinazolowera kukhala bwino ndikakhala ndi Brendan. Mwa njira, inde - ichi ndi chinthu chapadera chomwe chidandichitikira kunja kwa kanema ndi siteji - Brendan.

Ndikuuzani zambiri… Nthawi zina omenyera ufulu, omenyera ufulu wa dziko la Scotland, amayesa kunditenga nawo gawo mu kampeni yawo. Kodi mukudziwa cholinga chawo? Kutipangitsa ife a Scots olemera pambuyo pa ufulu. Kodi chimakulimbikitsani kuti mukhale olemera ndi chiyani?

Zaka XNUMX zapitazo, anthu a ku Ireland anamenyera ufulu wawo ndipo anali okonzeka kuufera. Kodi alipo wokonzeka kukhetsa magazi chifukwa cha "kukhala olemera"? Izi ndikutanthauza kuti kuchitapo kanthu sikukhala kolimbikitsa nthawi zonse. M'malingaliro anga, malingaliro okha ndi omwe angandilimbikitse kuchitapo kanthu. Zina zonse, monga akunena, ndi kuwonongeka.