Anakhala nyenyezi mwachangu, koma sanali mwayi nthawi zonse. Amachokera kubanja pafupifupi pansi pa umphawi ndipo amachitira ntchito yake "monga wophunzira": amatha miyezi yambiri akukonzekera maudindo m'mamyuziyamu ndi nyumba zosungiramo mabuku. Ndipo amakonda kupita ku mwambo wa Oscar ndi agogo ake. Kukumana ndi Jessica Chastain, yemwe akudziwa kuti njira yaifupi kwambiri ndiyokwera kwambiri.
Anthu atsitsi lofiira amaoneka ngati opanda pake kwa ine. A pang'ono frivolous. Ndipo nthawi zambiri wokondwa. Chomaliza chokha chimagwira ntchito kwa Jessica Chastain: ali - kwenikweni, kwenikweni - kwenikweni, amangosangalatsa diso. Ndipo pamene iye akuseka, chirichonse mu kuseka kwake - maso, mapewa, manja ang'onoang'ono woyera, ndi mwendo anawoloka pa mwendo wake, ndi nsapato za ballet oseketsa ndi kutsanzira mphuno nyama, ndi malaya obiriwira owala, ndi thalauza woyera ndi cuffs ruched. , zinthu za mtsikana, sukulu ya mkaka. Mwachionekere ndi munthu wopirira mwachibadwa. Koma mulibe frivolity mu izo nkomwe.
Mwa njira, iye ndi wonyansa - mwazindikira? Bakha mphuno, wotumbululuka khungu, yoyera eyelashes. Koma inu simunazindikire.
Inenso sindinazindikire. Iye ndi zisudzo kotero kuti aliyense akhoza kukhala. Ndiwachisoni, wonyengerera, wolanda, wokhudza, wachigawenga, wozunzidwa, wovala zikopa zakuda komanso mdzakazi mu crinoline. Ife tamuwona iye ngati rocker mu Amayi Andres Muschietti, monga woipa ku Guillermo del Toro's Crimson Peak, monga CIA ndi Mossad wothandizira mu Katherine Bigelow's Target One ndi John Madden's Payback, monga wopusa analephera mayi wapakhomo The Help. Tate Taylor, amayi achisoni mu Ned Benson's The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby, mayi wa madonna, chisonyezero cha kudzikonda mu Terrence Malick's The Tree of Life, ndipo potsiriza Salome ndi kunyenga kwake ndi chinyengo.
N’zosatheka kuti tisachizindikire, n’zosatheka kuchilekanitsa ndi maziko ake. Ndipo Chastain, atakhala patsogolo panga, alibe chochita ndi mphamvu zonsezi - mphatso yake yochita, kutha kuwongolera malingaliro athu, kutha kukonza malo owonekera mozungulira iye komanso nthawi yomweyo kukhala gawo limodzi lazonse. Ndipo palibe frivolity. Komanso mbali inayi, amatenga udindo wonse wa iye yekha - amayambitsa zokambirana zathu pa rekodi.
Jessica Chastain: Osandifunsa kuti ndinadziwika bwanji usiku wonse. Ndipo momwe ndinamvera nditayenda pa carpet yofiira ya Cannes ndi Brad Pitt ndi Sean Penn. Pambuyo pa zaka zambiri zolephera ndi mayesero osapambana. Osafunsa.
Psychology: Chifukwa chiyani?
JC: Chifukwa ... Chifukwa, aliyense amandifunsa funso ili - za 2011 yanga, pamene mafilimu asanu ndi limodzi nthawi imodzi, omwe anawombera nthawi zosiyanasiyana, adatuluka mkati mwa miyezi isanu ndi umodzi. Ndipo anayamba kundizindikira. Mukuwona, ndinali kale 34, ino ndi nthawi yomwe ena, ochita bwino kwambiri amalingalira ndi mantha: chotsatira ndi chiyani? Sindinenso mtsikana, ndizokayikitsa kuti ndidzakhala ndi moyo ngati ngwazi yachikondi ... Ndipo adzandifuna tsopano ...chosekedwa). Kuphatikizapo - ndipo ngati iwo kuwombera. Ndinali kale ndi zaka 34. Ndipo ndinamvetsa zomwe zinali zofunika kwambiri, ndi zomwe zinali choncho, zokongoletsera.
“Ndimakhulupirira kuti kuyamikira ndiko kumverera kwakukulu kumene munthu ayenera kukhala nako”
Ndili ndi zaka 25, mlongo wanga Juliet anadzipha. Chaka chimodzi wamng'ono kuposa ine. Tidawona pang'ono zisanachitike - adakangana ndi amayi ake, adaganiza zokhala ndi bambo athu otibala - tidangopeza kusukulu yasekondale kuti anali atate wathu, mu kalata yobadwa mu gawo la "bambo" tili ndi mpata. Makolo ake anali achichepere pamene adakumana, kenako amayi ake adasiya abambo ake ... Juliet adadwala matenda ovutika maganizo. Zaka zazitali. Ndipo atate wake sanathe kumthandiza. Anadziwombera ndi mfuti yake kunyumba kwake… Anali ndi zaka 24… Tinakulira limodzi, ndipo inenso sindikanatha kumuthandiza.
Zonse zinandisokoneza: malingaliro anga - okhudza kupambana, kulephera, ndalama, ntchito, kutukuka, maubwenzi, zovala, ma Oscar, kuti wina azindiona ngati chitsiru ... Pazonse. Ndipo ndinayamba kuona moyo wanga kukhala wopambana kotheratu. Iwo sanazitengere izo mu chithunzi - bwanji zinyalala, koma ine ntchito ndi kupeza ndalama. Kodi anali ndi wina? Ndipulumuka mwanjira ina, ndili moyo.
Koma kodi umu ndi momwe mumachepetsera vutoli?
JC: Ndipo ndingachitche kudzichepetsa. Sindinathe kuzindikira imfa yomwe ikuyandikira, phompho pamaso pa munthu wapafupi - bwanji kudzitamandira tsopano? Nchifukwa chiyani mumadziyerekezera kuti kukula kwa malipiro kumatsimikizira chinachake? Tiyenera kuyesetsa kuti tiwone zambiri! Bamboyo anamwalira atangodzipha mlongo wake. Ine sindinali pa maliro. Osati chifukwa sindimamudziwa, koma chifukwa ... Mukudziwa, pali munthu m'modzi wodabwitsa m'moyo wanga. Awa ndi bambo anga ondipeza, Michael. Iye ndi wozimitsa moto chabe… Ayi, osati chabe.
Iye ndi mpulumutsi ndi mpulumutsi pakuitana. Ndipo pamene anawonekera m’nyumba mwathu, kwa nthaŵi yoyamba ndinamva mmene kudekha, chisungiko ziri. Ndinali mwana, zaka zisanu ndi zitatu. Izi zisanachitike, sindinkadzidalira. Ndi iye m’moyo wanga ndinali ndi lingaliro lachisungiko mtheradi. Inde, nthaŵi zina tinali kuthamangitsidwa chifukwa cha lendi mochedwa, inde, nthaŵi zambiri tinalibe ndalama—ndipo tinali ndi ana asanu. Ndipo zidachitikanso kuti ndinabwera kunyumba kuchokera kusukulu, ndipo munthu wina adasindikiza chitseko cha nyumba yathu, adandiyang'ana mwachifundo ndikundifunsa ngati ndikufuna kutenga zina za zinthu zanga, chabwino, mwina mtundu wina wa chimbalangondo…
Ndipo komabe - nthawi zonse ndimadziwa kuti Michael adzatiteteza, choncho zonse zidzathetsedwa. Ndipo kumaliro a bambo anga sindinapiteko chifukwa ndimaopa kuti ndingakhumudwitse bambo anga ondipeza ndi zimenezi. Ndiyeno, kusanachitike koyamba kwa Mtengo wa Moyo, sikunali kofunikira kuti ndinali ku Cannes - ngakhale kuti ndine wokonda kwambiri mafilimu, ndipo kupita ku Cannes kunandipangitsanso kuti ndiwone chirichonse, chirichonse chomwe chikuwonetsedwa kumeneko! - ayi, kunali kofunika kuti ndisokonezeke, sindikudziwa choti ndichite pa masitepe awa a Palais des Festivals, ndipo Brad ndi Sean anatenga manja anga. Anathandiza watsopanoyo kuzolowera.
Koma zomwe mwachita ndizodabwitsa: kuyambira ubwana wovuta mpaka masitepe a Cannes ndi ma Oscars. Pali chinachake choti tinyadire nacho.
JC: Izi sizinthu zanga zokha. Anandithandiza nthawi zonse! Nthawi zambiri, ndimayang'ana zakale ngati unyolo wopanda malire wa thandizo la wina. Sindinandikonde bwino kusukulu. Ndinali wofiira, wamawanga. Ndinameta tsitsi langa potsutsa mafashoni akusukulu pafupifupi wadazi, atsikana azidole amanditcha wonyansa. Izi zili m'makalasi otsika. Koma ndinali ndi zaka 9 pamene agogo anga ananditengera kosewera. Anali Joseph ndi Wodabwitsa Wake Technicolor Dreamcoat, nyimbo ya Andrew Lloyd Webber. Ndipo ndizo, ndinasowa, ndinagwidwa ndi zisudzo. Pa XNUMX ndinapita ku studio ya zisudzo. Ndipo ndinapeza anthu anga. Sewerolo linandithandiza kukhala ndekha, ndipo anzanga anali osiyana kumeneko, ndi aphunzitsi. Tsopano ndikudziwa bwino kwa ana onse omwe ali ndi mavuto, ndipo kwa mchimwene wanga ndi mlongo wanga - iwo posachedwapa anamaliza sukulu - ndimati: sukulu ndi malo osadziwika, malo osadziwika. Pezani anu.
“Kulankhulana kulibe vuto, kumalankhulana ndi anthu olakwika. Ndipo palibe malo ovuta, palibe anu okha «
Palibe mavuto mukulankhulana, pali kulankhulana ndi anthu olakwika. Ndipo palibe malo ovuta, osati anu. Kenako, nditamaliza sukulu, agogo anga anandiuza kuti panalibe kanthu koti uganizire za kupeza ndalama, uyenera kuyesetsa kukhala katswiri wa zisudzo. Ndili ndi ngongole zonse zosankhidwa za Oscar ndi makapeti ofiira kwa agogo anga! Ndine woyamba m'banja lathu lalikulu kupita ku koleji! Agogo aakazi ananditsimikizira kuti ndikhoza. Ndipo anapita nane ku New York, kwa Juilliard wotchuka, kumene mpikisano unali anthu 100 pampando uliwonse.
Ndipo kachiwiri, sindikanamuwona Juilliard ngati Robin Williams, yemwe adamaliza maphunziro ake yekha, sanakhazikitse maphunziro a ophunzira omwe amapeza ndalama zochepa. Iwo ankandithandiza nthawi zonse. Kotero tsopano ndikunena kuti ndili ndi mphamvu yachisanu ndi chimodzi. Uku ndi kuyamikira. Zowona, ndimakhulupirira kuti uku ndiko kumverera kwakukulu komwe munthu ayenera kukhala nako - pamaso pa mabwenzi, chikondi ndi chikondi. Williams atadzipha, ndinkangokhalira kuganiza kuti sindinakumanepo naye, sindinamuthokoze.
Ndipotu, ndithudi, sindinkafuna kukakamiza. Koma ndinapezabe njira yomuthokoza. Maphunziro omwewo a ophunzira. Nthawi zambiri ndimapereka ndalama kuthumba. Ndipo Williams atamwalira, ndinapeza bungwe loletsa kudzipha. Ali ndi dzina lalikulu - Kulemba Chikondi pa Mikono Yake («Lembani» chikondi «pa mikono yake.» - Pafupifupi. ed.). Iwo omwe amagwira ntchito kumeneko akuyesera kubwezera chikondi kwa anthu ... ndimawathandiza. Zikomo m'njira zosiyanasiyana.
Koma simukufuna kunena kuti zomwe mwakwaniritsa zilibe kanthu kwa inu!
JC: Inde, aterodi! Sindikufuna kukhala munthu wapamphasa wofiira. Nthawi zonse ndimafuna kuti ndidziwike ngati wosewera - kudzera mwa otchulidwa, osati kudzera mwa omwe ndimakhala ndi chibwenzi komanso kuti ndine, mukuwona, wosadya nyama. Mukuwona, ku Hollywood, gawo lapamwamba kwambiri la ntchito ya Ammayi ndi gulu la "catwoman", ngwazi ya kanema wazithunzithunzi kapena "Bond Girl". Sindikutsutsana ndi atsikana a Bond, koma sindimayembekezera malingaliro otere. Ine sindine mtsikana wa ku Bond, ndine Bond! Ndili ndekha, ndine ngwazi ya kanema wanga.
Pambuyo pa Juilliard, ndinasaina mgwirizano ndi kampani yomwe imapanga mndandanda, ndipo ndinakhala ndi nyenyezi m'magawo awo onse. Sindinayembekeze malonda apamwamba. Ndinkachita mantha - uku ndi mantha aubwana, ndithudi - kuti sindingathe kulipira lendi. Ndinkalandira zikwi zisanu ndi chimodzi pamwezi, pambuyo pa kuchotsedwa konse komwe kunalipo katatu, nyumba ku Santa Monica inagula 1600, koma nthawi zonse ndinkabwereka pakati ndi munthu wina, kotero ndinapeza 800. Ndipo ndinali ndi maenvulopu awiri - "Kwa nyumba" ndi "Chakudya".
Kuchokera pa chindapusa chilichonse, ndimayika pambali ndalama pamenepo, zinali zosawonongeka. Mpaka posachedwa, ndinayendetsa Prius, yomwe ndinagula ndiye, mu 2007. Ndikhoza kukhala ndi moyo ndikuchita mwanzeru. Ndipo ndikhozanso kuyamikira zomwe ndiri nazo tsopano. Mukudziwa, ndinagula nyumba ku Manhattan - mtengo, ndithudi, ndi wodabwitsa, iyi ndi Manhattan, koma nyumbayo ndi yochepa. Ndipo ndimafuna kukhala ndi nyumba yocheperako - mulingo wamunthu. Mulingo wofanana ndi ine. Osati nyumba zazikulu za 200 mita.
Mumalankhula ngati munthu amene nthawi zambiri amadzisangalatsa. Kodi mumadziyesa "zabwino"?
JC: Inde, ndapita patsogolo ndithu. Ndinali wamanyazi, wotopa kwambiri! Penapake mwa ine munali chidaliro chakuti ndingathe ndipo ndiyenera kukhala wabwino koposa. Ndipo kotero izo ziyenera kutenga kwambiri. Ngati sikunali kwa anzanga… Ndi pamene ku Cannes, pamene ine ndinali kumeneko kwa nthawi yoyamba ndi «Mtengo wa Moyo», Ndinali ndi nkhawa kwambiri. Chabwino, sindimadziwa kuti ndiyenda bwanji pa kapeti yofiyira iyi… Kuchokera ku hotelo tidakwera galimoto kupita ku Zikondwerero za Palais des, pang'onopang'ono, pang'onopang'ono, ndi mwambo kumeneko.
Ine ndinali ndi Jess Wexler, mnzanga wapamtima komanso mnzanga wa m’kalasi. Ndinapitiriza kubuula kuti mantha, mantha, mantha, ndimaponda pamasitepe pamphepete mwanga, pafupi ndi Brad ndikuwoneka ngati chitsiru - ndi kutalika kwanga kwa 162 cm - komanso kuti ndinali pafupi kusanza. Mpaka anati, “Bwanji inu, pitirirani! Ingotsegulani chitseko - osachepera atolankhani azikhala ndi zomwe alemba! Zomwe zinandipangitsa kuzindikira. Mukuona, mukamasunga maunansi ndi anthu amene amakuonani mumkhalidwe woipitsitsa, pali chiyembekezo cha kuphunzira chowonadi ponena za inu mwini. Ndi chifukwa chake ndimawasunga, anga.
Mphekesera zimati simukonda zisudzo anzanu. Izi ndi Zow?
JC: Mphekesera - koma zoona! Inde, sindichita chibwenzi ndi zisudzo. Chifukwa ubale kwa ine ndi womasuka kwathunthu, kuwona mtima kotheratu. Ndipo ndi wosewera ... Pali kuthekera kwa chisokonezo - bwanji ngati iye amasewera nanunso?
Kodi pali vuto lililonse kumbali yanu?
JC: Ndipo sindimasewera konse. Ngakhale m'mafilimu. Ndinkakhulupirira kuti zinali zoonekeratu.