Moyo wake wonse amatsagana ndi kutchuka: pamene iye anali chitsanzo, pamene iye anakhala nyenyezi ya wotchuka TV onena Santa Barbara, ndipo pambuyo pake - mkazi wa wochita manyazi Sean Penn ... Atolankhani anamuiwala pamene anasiya ntchito yake. chifukwa cha banja lake ndipo anakana maudindo ambiri apamwamba. Koma zabwino zimabwera kwa omwe amadziwa kudikira. Popeza ankaimba udindo wa Dona woyamba wa United States mu mndandanda "Nyumba ya makadi", iye anadzipeza yekha mu kuwala. Kukumana ndi Robin Wright - Ammayi ndi wotsogolera, amene pambuyo chisudzulo anayamba kuzindikira yekha.
Zikuwoneka kuti adasiya kuchedwa kwake komanso kuvina mu "House of Cards". Ndimatha kumuwona akugwetsa ma stilettos ake pamene akutuluka pansi pa zowala ... Mayi yemwe ali patsogolo panga akugwedeza tsitsi lake pansi pa choyatsira mpweya, amakoka kolala ya t-sheti yake yoyera, ndikusintha lamba wa jeans yake - ngati. munthu wamba wa ku New York akuyenda mu cafe yoziziritsa kukhosi ndi dzuwa lotentha la mumsewu. Anandipangira chibwenzi ku Brooklyn Heights yakale, ndipo ndikuwona chifukwa chake.
Anthu okhala m'deralo, eni ake a «ndalama zoyera zakale», sadzapereka chizindikiro kuti adakumana ndi munthu wotchuka ... perekani ma autograph, osayang'ana maso ... Atha kukhala choncho , zomwe amakonda: wochezeka komanso wosungidwa. Kukhazikika. Zimenezi zimadzutsa mafunso.
Psychology: Ndikuganiza za moyo wanu ndikufika pamapeto: ndinu ogwirizana, osasunthika, olekerera m'mbali zonse. Koma kwenikweni ndinu wosintha, wogwetsa maziko. Mukuchitapo kanthu. Kusiya ntchito yolera ana ndi chisankho chopanda pake kwa katswiri wa kanema, makamaka atatha kumenya ngati The Princess Bride ndi Forrest Gump. Ndipo chisudzulo chanu pambuyo pa zaka makumi awiri zaukwati! Zinali ngati mndandanda wamasewera ankhonya - tsopano kukumbatirana, kenako kugwetsa, kenako otenga nawo mbali m'makona a mphete. Ndipo mgwirizano wanu ndi mnzanu wazaka 15 wocheperapo ... Kodi mumatha bwanji kuphatikiza kufewa ndi kusanyengerera?
Robin Wright: Sindinadziganizirepo m'magulu otere… Kuti ndine wa wrestler… Inde, mukulondola pa china chake. Nthawi zonse ndakhala ndikutsutsana ndi njira ya zinthu. Ayi… M'malo mwake: nthawi yambiri ya moyo wanga ndimango… kudyetsera! Ndinatsatira zochitikazo, adamenyana nane. Ndinayenera kukana. Sindinkafuna kusewera Claire Underwood mu House of Cards! Osati kokha chifukwa tsankho lodana ndi TV lidandiuza kuti mwakhala nthawi yayitali ku Santa Barbara kuti mubwererenso pazenera laling'ono. Osati kokha.
Komanso chifukwa iye ndi CEO wamba ndi Machiavellianism onse abizinesi yayikulu: simukugwira ntchito, mwachedwa, simukukayikira - mwachotsedwa ntchito. Sindinathe ngakhale kuthamangitsa wondisamalira. Chilichonse mwa ine chimalakalaka mtendere ndi chiyanjanitso. Kapena kudziwononga. Koma zoona zake n’zakuti zinthu zinali choncho moti ndinayenera kusiya msipu wanga. Komabe, samalani, osati chifukwa cha mpikisano wokhala ndi mphotho ndi hype. Ndipo chifukwa cha khasu.
Ndipo zimaoneka bwanji pamene inu «msipu»?
R.R.:. Ndikakhala ndi mikhalidwe yabwino, ndimavala zogona zanga tsiku lonse.
Ndipo ndizo zonse?
R.R.:. Aliyense akuganiza kuti ndine wowona - ndikuseka, koma simukuzindikira. Koma pali chowonadi apa: Ndimakonda zovala zogona, ndizovala zachilengedwe kwambiri kwa ine. Chifukwa chake, ine ndi mlengi Karen Fowler tinapanga mzere wathu wa zovala zogonera kuti tigulitse kwa ozunzidwa ku Congo, ndipo ndinakhala nkhope ya mtunduwo. Linali lingaliro loona mtima.
Mwana wanga wamkazi anabadwa ndili ndi zaka 24. Tsopano ndikudziwa kuti nthawi yayandikira kwambiri. Kukula kwanga kukuwoneka kuti kwayima
Kuthandiza wina kudzera mu chinthu chomwe mumachikondadi ndi ntchito yoyera. Ndipo ngati popanda zovala zogona, ndiye ... tsopano ine ndikuganiza kuti kuyenda ndi otaya ndi m'malo chisoni ntchito. Tsopano ndikuganiza: Ndinali wachinyamata wosungulumwa wosungulumwa kusukulu, chifukwa sindinayese kudziwonetsera ndekha mwanjira iliyonse.
Kodi ndinu achisoni komanso osungulumwa? Kodi ndi liti pamene kuoneka kumakhala kofunika kwambiri kwa achinyamata?
R.R.:. Ndinadwala matenda olephera kuŵerenga, ndinalibe vuto la kuphunzira, ndinalibe mikhalidwe yankhondo, ndinalibe chikhumbo chofuna kukhala mtsogoleri wokondwerera. Zonsezi sizikuthandizira kuti akuvomerezeni m'madera olamulira, omwe ndi sukulu. Kenako ndinakopeka ndi makampani opanga mafashoni - chifukwa cha zoyesayesa za amayi anga, ndithudi. Iye anali mmodzi mwa apainiya ogulitsa zodzoladzola za Mary Kay ndi luso loyankhulana, chifukwa njira yonse ya kampaniyi imachokera ku malonda "kuchokera ku dzanja ndi dzanja". Mayi anga ndi womenya nkhondo!
Makolo anga anasiyana ndili ndi zaka ziwiri. Ndimakumbukira mmene atate analira pamene amayi anandiika ine ndi mchimwene wanga m’galimoto. Ndinalira, kutiwona tikuchoka ... Patatha zaka 13, ndikucheza ndi amayi anga, ndinakumbukira nkhani iyi, ndipo adadabwa kwambiri. Sakumbukira misozi ndipo amakumbukira zonse mosiyana: monga kumasulidwa kotsimikizika, kuchoka ku zakale. Amakumbukira kuti tidatsanzikana ndikunyamuka. Sindikudziwa. Mwina kuzindikira kwaubwana kumeneku kunapangitsa kuti misozi ibwere kwa abambo anga, misozi yanga imakhala…
Ndimamvetsa munthu bwino ndikapeza ake «chitsanzo» mu nyama dziko. Ndipo pa udindo uliwonse ndimapeza «kiyi» mu mawonekedwe a nyama
Ndipo amayi anga ali okangalika komanso otsimikiza ndipo sasinthana ndi kuletsa malingaliro. Iye ndi wokoma mtima modabwitsa ndi womasuka, nthawizonse wakhala. Koma salola kuti achite zinthu mwadongosolo. Koma ngakhale patapita zaka zisanu ndi chimodzi makolo anga anakumananso, ndipo nthaŵi zonse ndinkalankhula ndi abambo, izi zinakhalabe mwa ine: sindingathe kuchita kalikonse, bambo anga ayima panjira, ndipo ndikunyamuka ndi galimoto ya amayi anga ... zaka zambiri ndaphunzira kamvekedwe kogwirizana m'moyo? Sindikudziwa.
Koma mudakhala chitsanzo, ndipo iyi ndi gawo lopikisana kwambiri ...
R.R.:. Ndizowona. Koma choyamba, ndinadzipeza ndili m’khola lamtundu winawake: ndili ndi zaka 14, ndinalandira kontrakiti ku Japan. Amayi ananditengera kumeneko. Mchimwene wanga wamkulu Richard amayenera kundisamalira - adayamba ntchito yake yojambula kumeneko. Koma iye sanali kwa ine, ine ndinasiyidwa ndekha. Ndipo ndinaphunzira zambiri za moyo - zosiyana kotheratu ndi zathu! Anathera maola ku zoo. Kuyambira pamenepo ndakhala ndi chizolowezi ichi - ndimamvetsa munthu bwino (kapena zikuwoneka kwa ine kuti ndikumvetsa) ndikapeza ake «chitsanzo» mu nyama dziko. Ndipo pa gawo lililonse, ndimapeza "kiyi" mu mawonekedwe a nyama.
Udindo wanga womwe ndimakonda kwambiri ndi wa Nick Cassavetes 'She's So Beautiful. Maureen ndi nyama yanji?
R.R.:. Meerkat. Amangowoneka ngati mphaka, ndi kusalala kwake ndi kufewa kwake - kubwerera kumbuyo kwa mwendo wanu. Koma iye ali ndi chidwi ndi ofunda mink ndi kutentha dzuwa. Si vuto lake, sangakhale popanda kutentha. Koma amakoka mutu wake kuti awone chomwe chili m’chizimezime. Zowona, chizimezime chake chayandikira kwambiri.
Ndi Claire Underwood?
R.R.:. Ndinaganiza kwa nthawi yayitali… Mphungu yadazi. Zachifumu ndi zachifanizo. Amayandama pamwamba pa zolengedwa zazing'ono. Iwo ndi nyama yake. Koma ali ndi mapiko, mapiko amphamvu. Iye ali pamwamba pa zonse - zolengedwa zazing'ono ndi zolusa zazikulu.
Munayenda bwanji ndikuyenda?
R.R.:. Ndiye panali mgwirizano ku Paris. Chaka chathunthu ku Europe kwa munthu yemwe adakulira mu glossy koma m'chigawo cha San Diego ndikusintha. Dziko linatseguka pamaso panga. Ndili ndi mafunso ambiri ndekha. Ndinayamba kudziyesa ndekha ngati munthu, osati monga ntchito - kodi ndili bwino pazithunzi, kodi ndimalangidwa mokwanira pa "podium yayikulu" ndipo chifuwa changa ndi chaching'ono kwambiri monga wojambula zithunzi wina wotchuka anafuula kwa wojambula. pa kuwombera: "Inde, chitanipo kanthu ngati anditengera chitsanzo cha chifuwa chafulati!"
Ndinayamba kudzipenda ndekha ndipo sindinakhutire nazo. Koma sindinkadziŵa kuti kusakhutira kumeneku kumabweretsa kudzikonda kwambiri kuposa kudzikhutiritsa. Ndiye «Santa Barbara» - moyo pa ndandanda, nthawi zonse mavuto. Ndiyeno - chikondi, banja, ana. Ukwati wanga woyamba kwa mnzanga waku Santa Barbara unali ukwati wa comrade-m-mkono: phwando lalikulu, ndipo linatha mwamsanga.
Koma ndi Sean, zonse poyamba zinali zovuta. Ndipo ine ndimaganiza kuti zinali kwanthawizonse. Inde, zidachitika: zaka 20 zaubwenzi ndizofanana ndi "nthawi zonse" kwa ine. Dylan anabadwa ndili ndi zaka 24. Tsopano ndikudziwa kuti ndi m'mawa kwambiri, mofulumira kwambiri. Kukula kwanga kukuwoneka kuti kwayima.
Koma kodi ubale watsopano, umayi, ungaletse bwanji chitukuko? Ambiri amavomereza kuti izi ndi zolimbikitsa kukula!
R.R.:. Koma sindinadziŵe ndekha! Ndipo kwa zaka khumi ndi theka zotsatira, ndinali kulera ana, sindinali ndekha ndekha, ndinali mayi. Zambiri za moyo wanga wamkulu! Ndangoyamba kumene kudzizindikira kuti ndine ndani.
Koma chifukwa cha ana, moyo wasintha kwambiri. Kodi kutsimikiza mtima si chizindikiro cha munthu wokhwima maganizo?
R.R.:. Apa m’pamene zinthu zinayamba kundivuta kwambiri. Tangoganizani: Ndimakana maudindo mchaka chasukulu, koma ndikuvomera kuchita nawo filimu panthawi yatchuthi. Ndipo kumeneko: "Chabwino, pitani ku zoo kachiwiri, ndipo madzulo tidzapita limodzi kukadya ayisikilimu." Ndiko kuti: ana okondedwa, chonde siyaninso moyo wanga, ndiyeno mukhoza kubwerera. Kodi mukumvetsetsa? Ntchitoyi inkandilekanitsa ndi ana. Ndinayenera kuika chotchinga.
Kodi ana amene anakulira pansi pa kuyang’aniridwa kosalekeza tsopano akukhutira ndi amayi awo?
R.R.:. Ndapeza ndekha monga mayi kuti njira yokhayo yopezera ana kuti akumvetsereni ndikuwapatsa ufulu wambiri momwe angathere. Ndipo ndidazindikira izi munthawi yake - Dylan ndi Hopper atangotsala pang'ono kulowa (atalikirana chaka chimodzi ndi theka) muunyamata wovuta. Dylan ndi munthu wodziyimira pawokha, ali ndi zaka 16 adayamba kupanga zisankho zokhwima zamaluso ndipo adakhala chitsanzo osati chifukwa cha inertia, koma mwatanthauzo - kuwona dziko lapansi osati ndi maso a mwana wamkazi wa makolo olemera, koma ndi maso. wa otenga nawo mbali mwachangu.
Ukwati wanga woyamba kwa mnzanga waku Santa Barbara unali ukwati wa comrade-m-manja: phwando lolimba, ndipo linatha mwamsanga.
Koma Hopper adakhala munthu wowopsa kwambiri. Ali ndi zaka 14, anayesa kuchita chinyengo pa skateboard movutikira kwambiri mpaka anatsala pang'ono kufa. Intracranial magazi ndi zonse. Sean ankangoganiza mopambanitsa moyo wake wonse pamene opaleshoni inali kuchitika. Ndinatsala pang'ono kufa. Palibe, tinapulumuka ... Zotsatira za ufulu wa ana. Koma m'pofunika.
Nanga bwanji za chisudzulo? Kodi chinali chizindikiro cha kukula - pambuyo pa zaka 20 zaukwati?
R.R.:. Ayi, ine sindikanatanthauzira izo mwanjira imeneyo. M’malo mwake, ndinayesetsa kukhalabe ndi mkhalidwe umene unalipo. Tinayanjanitsa, tinagwirizana, kenako tinasiyananso. Ndipo kotero kwa zaka zitatu. Ndinkaopa kusintha moyo wanga, chifukwa ... Zinali zoonekeratu - m'moyo watsopano, pambuyo pa Sean, ine ndiyenera kuwonekera.
Ndipo iye anawonekera?
R.R.:. Adawonekera nditazindikira. Tsiku lina ndinadzuka ndipo ndinazindikira kuti panalibe chodetsa nkhawa. Ndinachita chinachake m'moyo wanga, ndinakumana ndi chinachake, ndipo ndinkangokhalira kuda nkhawa ngati ndinali wabwino, zomwe ndinali ngati wochita masewero, amayi, mkazi. Ndipo kunali kupusa kuda nkhawa - umayenera kukhala ndi moyo. Ndinazindikira kuti panalibe chilichonse chodetsa nkhawa, osati chifukwa ana adakula, ndipo ukwati wanga unatha - pambuyo pake, ukwati ndi linga lokongola, koma kodi munthu angakhale ndi moyo wautali bwanji kuseri kwa mipanda! Ayi, ndinazindikira kuti palibe chifukwa chodera nkhawa, chifukwa zochitika zomwe zakhala zikuchitika kale zimati: moyo, ukhoza kukhala ndi moyo.
Kenako panaoneka munthu watsopano. Simunachite manyazi ndi kusiyana kwa zaka 15?
R.R.:. Inde, sizinandivutitse. Zimakhala chiyani mukakhala moyo mokwanira, kuwerenga momwe simunawerengepo, ndikumva kwambiri ndikuseka! Moni, Ben Foster anali munthu woyamba kundifunsa!
Inde?
R.R.:. Ndikutanthauza, palibe amene adandifunsapo tsiku lina. Ndakhala m'banja moyo wanga wonse! Ndipo izi zisanachitike, palibe amene adandifunsapo za chibwenzi. Komanso, tsikuli linali lodabwitsa - linali kuwerenga ndakatulo. Mwanjira iliyonse chokumana nacho chatsopano.
Ndipo komabe munasweka ...
R.R.:. Ndimagwira ntchito yoteteza amayi ku nkhanza ndipo ndimakhala nthawi yambiri ku Africa. Kumeneko ndinaphunzira mmene Afirika amaonera zinthu: tsiku lililonse lotsatira ndi latsopano. Ndipo zayamba kale: monga wotsogolera, ndinapanga magawo angapo mu House of Cards ndipo ndikukonzekera kukhala wotsogolera kwathunthu. Taonani, sitikudziwa zomwe zidzachitike mphindi zisanu zikubwerazi, nanga bwanji mukuvutika ndi zomwe zidachitika kale? Mawa lidzakhala tsiku latsopano.